Upfrading from Ubuntu 14.03 to Ubuntu 16.0

Peter petergoggin at bigpond.com
Thu Aug 4 02:02:30 UTC 2016


I had three lpatops I upgraded to 16.04. The third which upgraded 
without problem did not have Wine installed. The other two did and 
failed. When I restored 14.04 I put back all of the packages I use. They 
then upgraded correctly. On looking at my notes I realised that I did 
not restore Wine since I do not use it, preferring to run Windows 
programs in a virtual machine.

It would appear that the problem is with the Wine package which uses the 
micrsof fonts.

Thank you all for your help and advice. It is comforting to know that 
help is only an e-mail away.

Regard


Peter Goggin


On 02/08/16 03:04, Tommy Trussell wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Karl Auer <kauer at biplane.com.au 
> <mailto:kauer at biplane.com.au>> wrote:
>
>     On Tue, 2016-08-02 at 02:22 +1000, Peter wrote:
>     > While you may claim the problem was due to user error, please
>     explain
>     > the later upgrades ran with out problem and did NOT STOP waiting
>     for
>     > user response.
>
>     That's a good question. One possibility is that the dialogues
>     timed out
>     after a while, but I'm guessing you were watching the process and that
>     didn't happen. Another possibility is that the packages that require
>     those fonts were somehow not part of the upgrade the second time
>     around. It would depend on the starting position, I guess, and what
>     packages needed upgrading.
>
>     But it's a good question :-)
>
>     BTW, "user error" isn't an insult around here, it's just a literal
>     description of the root cause of a lot of problems.
>
>
> Personally I would avoid the "user error" characterization and push it 
> back onto the packaging. The ttf-mscorefonts-installer package has 
> problems. Unfortunately there have been more problems as time has gone 
> on, including putting up textual dialogs that Ubuntu users cannot see 
> or respond to in certain circumstances, and (to me the final straw) 
> causing some Ubuntu fonts to display improperly.
>
> Despite it being a very useful package in theory (commonly-used web 
> fonts that Microsoft released to the world with only a few technical 
> restrictions), I decided to remove it.
>
> Here's a link describing one of the problems the package causes under 
> Ubuntu "Trusty" 14.04 (I haven't tried it yet under Xenial):
>
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/577999/ubuntu-14-nautilus-font-is-wrong
>
>
>
>

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