kate NEARLY usable for remote files

[Petter Adsen]

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 17:51:47 +0100
robert rottermann <robert at redcor.ch> wrote:

> On 26.11.2015 22:27, Petter Adsen wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 21:43:45 +0100
> > robert rottermann <robert at redcor.ch> wrote:
> >  
> >> On 26.11.2015 19:13, Petter Adsen wrote:  
> >>> On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:02:54 +0100
> >>> robert <robert at redcor.ch> wrote:
> >>>     
> >>>> Hi friends in ubuntu,
> >>>>
> >>>> my favourite programmers editor is kate.
> >>>> On of the main reasons (THE main reason, actually) is that it
> >>>> allows to edit remote files with perfect ease.
> >>>> Just open  it using an url that points to the file like
> >>>> fish://root@remotebox.ch/etc/hosts (where fish:// is the protocol
> >>>> to use).
> >>>>
> >>>> now the bad part:
> >>>> it does not work..
> >>>> at least, only clumsily ..
> >>>>
> >>>> I have to open a remote file from a shell calling kate with the
> >>>> file as a parameter:
> >>>> kate fish://root@remotebox.ch/etc/hosts  
> >>> Didn't we go over this back in May and again in August? I had a
> >>> quick look at the first posts of those threads, and you were using
> >>> 15.04 then
> >>> - I'm assuming you have tried with 15.10 now?  
> >> yes we did ..
> >> and I am using 15.10 now.  
> >>>     
> >>>> then it opens the file nicely, it even reloads it when the
> >>>> session is reloaded at a later time.
> >>>>
> >>>> So the edition of remote files works nicely. it is only the
> >>>> opening of remote files that is hard.
> >>>>
> >>>> now my question..
> >>>>
> >>>> where do I file that bug?  
> >>> This is _probably_ not a problem with Kate itself, but rather part
> >>> of the framework (KIO?), so I'd assume it should be filed against
> >>> whatever package provides that. I'm not familiar enough with KDE
> >>> to tell you exactly which one, though it could be 'kio'.  
> >> no it has nothing to do with kate, as kate runs fine when I install
> >> kubuntu.
> >>
> >> I am using unity and did install kate on top of it.
> >> I tried to install kde-desktop together with unity. but this
> >> produces an error and fails.
> >> It seems to be some missing titbit in a unity installation.  
> > There is a package named 'kio-extras' that seems to contain some
> > sort of module for ssh - I didn't examine it too closely. If that
> > is not installed, can you try installing it and see if that helps?
> >  
> >>> Does it work in any other KDE applications - Konqueror, for
> >>> example? That should be checked first, so it can be filed against
> >>> the correct package. There could be a problem in how Kate uses
> >>> KIO.  
> >> I have no other KDE applications really.  
> > You could install one and remove it after testing. This information
> > would be helpful in filing a bug report.
> >  
> >>>> or is there a way to circumvent it?  
> >>> Have you tried with 'sftp' instead  of 'fish'?  
> >> sftp does not work either.  
> > Then there is probably a problem with ssh support in general. Try
> > installing the package mentioned above. If that doesn't help, you
> > need to try another KDE application with KIO support to see if it
> > works there, in order to determine whether to file the bug against
> > kio or kate itself.
> >
> > Petter  
> thanks petter,
> I had installed kio-extras before.
> Now I installed also konqueror. It opens urls with the fish://
> protocol nicely. urls using sftp:// do not work (but I have not used
> sftp the last 100 years, so maybe I just use a wrong syntax).
> 
> So it seems that it is kate that has problems OPENING files using
> fish over its standard open dialog.
> 
> and it is not kate. I just installed kubuntu in a virtual machine,
> and there kate can use the fish protocoll just fine.
> 
> so this is a kate & unity problem.

Well, I just installed kate here on Xubuntu 15.10, and got a
KIO-related error message when trying to open a file with the fish
protocol, so I installed kio-extras, and then it worked just fine. There
is probably some missing dependency on your installation, but I can't
tell you which one :(

Have you tried purging kate, kio and kio-extras and reinstalling them,
making sure to install any Recommends from them or from any dependencies
that seem relevant? Since it works fine under XFCE there should be no
reason it doesn't under Unity.

Does Unity have an option to start KDE services? If so, enable it and
log out and back in again before trying kate again.

Petter

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