kate NEARLY usable for remote files

[robert rottermann]

On 26.11.2015 22:27, Petter Adsen wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 21:43:45 +0100
> robert rottermann <robert at redcor.ch> wrote:
>
>> On 26.11.2015 19:13, Petter Adsen wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:02:54 +0100
>>> robert <robert at redcor.ch> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> Hi friends in ubuntu,
>>>>
>>>> my favourite programmers editor is kate.
>>>> On of the main reasons (THE main reason, actually) is that it
>>>> allows to edit remote files with perfect ease.
>>>> Just open  it using an url that points to the file like
>>>> fish://root@remotebox.ch/etc/hosts (where fish:// is the protocol
>>>> to use).
>>>>
>>>> now the bad part:
>>>> it does not work..
>>>> at least, only clumsily ..
>>>>
>>>> I have to open a remote file from a shell calling kate with the
>>>> file as a parameter:
>>>> kate fish://root@remotebox.ch/etc/hosts
>>> Didn't we go over this back in May and again in August? I had a
>>> quick look at the first posts of those threads, and you were using
>>> 15.04 then
>>> - I'm assuming you have tried with 15.10 now?
>> yes we did ..
>> and I am using 15.10 now.
>>>   
>>>> then it opens the file nicely, it even reloads it when the session
>>>> is reloaded at a later time.
>>>>
>>>> So the edition of remote files works nicely. it is only the opening
>>>> of remote files that is hard.
>>>>
>>>> now my question..
>>>>
>>>> where do I file that bug?
>>> This is _probably_ not a problem with Kate itself, but rather part
>>> of the framework (KIO?), so I'd assume it should be filed against
>>> whatever package provides that. I'm not familiar enough with KDE to
>>> tell you exactly which one, though it could be 'kio'.
>> no it has nothing to do with kate, as kate runs fine when I install
>> kubuntu.
>>
>> I am using unity and did install kate on top of it.
>> I tried to install kde-desktop together with unity. but this produces
>> an error and fails.
>> It seems to be some missing titbit in a unity installation.
> There is a package named 'kio-extras' that seems to contain some sort
> of module for ssh - I didn't examine it too closely. If that is not
> installed, can you try installing it and see if that helps?
>
>>> Does it work in any other KDE applications - Konqueror, for example?
>>> That should be checked first, so it can be filed against the correct
>>> package. There could be a problem in how Kate uses KIO.
>> I have no other KDE applications really.
> You could install one and remove it after testing. This information
> would be helpful in filing a bug report.
>
>>>> or is there a way to circumvent it?
>>> Have you tried with 'sftp' instead  of 'fish'?
>> sftp does not work either.
> Then there is probably a problem with ssh support in general. Try
> installing the package mentioned above. If that doesn't help, you need
> to try another KDE application with KIO support to see if it works
> there, in order to determine whether to file the bug against kio or
> kate itself.
>
> Petter
thanks petter,
I had installed kio-extras before.
Now I installed also konqueror. It opens urls with the fish:// protocol nicely. 
urls using sftp:// do not work (but I have not used sftp the last 100 years, so 
maybe I just use a wrong syntax).

So it seems that it is kate that has problems OPENING files using fish over its 
standard open dialog.

and it is not kate. I just installed kubuntu in a virtual machine, and there 
kate can use the fish protocoll just fine.

so this is a kate & unity problem.

thanks
robert