upgrade solves other issues?

Tue Apr 8 10:51:03 UTC 2014

On 04/08/2014 03:38 AM, John R. Sowden wrote:
> On 04/08/2014 03:07 AM, Colin Law wrote:
>> On 8 April 2014 10:44, John R. Sowden <jsowden at americansentry.net> wrote:
>>> On 04/08/2014 12:45 AM, Colin Law wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 7 April 2014 21:11, John R. Sowden <jsowden at americansentry.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am having a problem whereby gcc and other low level programs
>>>>> cannot be
>>>>> upgraded (even by root).  I have written about this before with
>>>>> varying
>>>>> responses.  I do not want to (unless I _have_ to) remove Ubuntu
>>>>> from my
>>>>> computer and "reinstall the operating system", as Microsoft says.
>>>>> I will
>>>>> not know what programs I have added, written, etc. over the years that
>>>>> will
>>>>> be lost.  Will upgrading to 14.04 solve this issue?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That rather depends on what the problem you currently have is.  Remind
>>>> us of the problem and someone may be able to answer.
>>>>
>>>> Colin
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also what directories will be left alone?
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>
>>> It started when I was noticing when I did Ubuntu updates, there were
>>> base
>>> updates (binutils) that I was unable to select.  After a while of no
>>> luck, I
>>> gave up (computer was working ok).
>>
>> Let's go back to square one, does
>> sudo apt-get update
>> show any errors? If so then post them.
>> If not, what does
>> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
>> show?  Copy/paste it here.
>>
>> Colin
>>
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> john at sentry10:~$
>
> ====================================
here's more:
john at sentry10:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
   binutils
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
john at sentry10:~$

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>>>
>>> Then I tried to install Pure Basic.  It would not install.  It creates
>>> assembler code (i think), then compiles it into an executable.  This
>>> would
>>> not work because it uses gcc or an associated computer.  I went on
>>> this list
>>> and this is the last message (most complete) that I got in response to
>>> various executions I ran:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/15/2014 05:26 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
>>>> On 14 March 2014 23:20, John R. Sowden <jsowden at americansentry.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> It seems that my problem has to do with "held" files (from
>>>>> synaptic) but
>>>>> I
>>>>> cannot determine which files are "held" so I can delete them.
>>>>
>>>> I Am aware that Synaptic was my own suggestion - but if you try
>>>> from the shell with apt-get, then you can fairly easily copy-and-paste
>>>> the errors here...
>>>>
>>> I went to the site you suggested.  It seems that others have had the
>>> same
>>> issue, but it has not
>>> been resolved.  It seems that this is where the Ubuntu staff should
>>> step in.
>>> I appreciate your stepping
>>> back into the confusion.  I am almost ready for the microsoft
>>> "reinstall the
>>> operating system" solution.
>>>
>>> below is a synaptic error message after trying to "fix broken packages"
>>>
>>> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
>>> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
>>> caused
>>> by held packages.
>>>
>>> E: Unable to correct dependencies
>>> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
>>>
>>> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
>>> caused
>>> by held packages.
>>>
>>> Below is an apt-get error message after running apt-get build-essential:
>>> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>>>   build-essential : Depends: gcc (>= 4:4.4.3) but it is not going to be
>>> installed
>>>                     Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.4.3) but it is not going to be
>>> installed
>>> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
>>>
>>> It seems that the program knows what messages are "held" but is not
>>> showing
>>> them,
>>> nor is it showing the command to see them (often done).
>>>
>>> If I try to delete gcc, it want to delete a lot of libraries that are
>>> associated with gcc, and therefore,
>>> without those libraries, about 100 valid programs will be deleted
>>> because if
>>> dependencies.
>>>
>>> It seems like there is a old version of gcc on the computer which is
>>> causing
>>> this chain of events.
>>> I tried to manually remove gcc, but could not (as root, I did not have
>>> permission).
>>>
>>> By the way, for several months, whenever an upgrade came along, the
>>> Ubuntu
>>> base section
>>> had binutils, and assembler listed but were unchecked.  It would not
>>> allow
>>> me to check them.
>>>
>>> I am also getting hundreds of errors on boot each day, ever since I
>>> turned
>>> on the display of the
>>> initial programs.  The errors reference "fd 7" and bad directory or file
>>> name.  The normal execution
>>> of the system does not seem to be effected (libreoffice, thunderbird,
>>> firefox, printing)
>>> ============================================
>>>
>>> tia, John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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