Probably stupid question, but

[Cybe R. Wizard]

On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:45:56 -0700
"Kevin O'Gorman" <kogorman at gmail.com> wrote:

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> QUIT IT.

I haven't been tracking this thread, either, but now, having read what
you included below your moderate (??) rant, I can find no obscenity
(except for that in quoted links.  Should they not be used for fear of
offending someones thin-skinned ears?), no insult and no ad-hominem
attacks. Are you ranting about the right thread?  To me it looks like
you don't have a clue about what you are doing.

Re-read what is below if you don't believe me.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Robert Holtzman <holtzm at cox.net>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 09:51:16AM +0200, Patrick Asselman wrote:
> >> On 2013-09-04 22:39, Robert Holtzm wrote:
> >> >On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 08:38:17AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> >
> >> >       ........snip.......
> >> >>
> >> >>I am 100% with Patrick on this. NM is NOT ready for prime time,
> >> >>chase it
> >> >>out of the barn with a load of buckshot in its behind & don't
> >> >>let it back
> >> >>on the property until it can play nice.
> >> >
> >> >I accept the fact that you've had problems w/ NM, but how do you
> >> >account
> >> >for the thousands of users who use it successfully every day? If
> >> >it were wide spread I would think there would be a flood of
> >> >messages on this list and on the forums. But then what do I know?
> >>
> >> For your amusement, here is the result of 5 seconds on Google:
> >> http://cholla.mmto.org/computers/linux/nm.html
> >> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=220376
> >> http://marc.merlins.org/perso/linux/post_2009-07-19_Upgraded-to-Jaunty_-Network-Manager-Still-Sucks-Balls_-2_6_30_1-not-that-stable_-and-Comcast-Business-Exceeding-Expectations.html
> >> http://saveandrewgarib.com/?articleid=221
> >> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1359938.html
> >>
> >> But please note that all of those links are a few years old.
> >
> > As you say, these are a few years old. IIRC during that time period
> > I was running ubuntu and had problems with nm. Wound up going to
> > wicd. A year or so ago I dumped ubuntu because I got a belly full of
> > Marvelous Mark and went to debian. It installed nm which worked
> > perfectly and does to this day.
> >>
> >>
> >> What seems to have happened is that more and more people used Linux
> >> on laptops, and there was no tool for properly handling wifi
> >> connections. NM did that bit pretty well, so it was added to
> >> Linux... but it seems they forgot that NM was maybe not the best
> >> thing for some non-wifi applications.
> >>
> >> NM seems to have matured now, and it is probably a great tool,
> >> unifying network setup in all the different distros.
> >> Maybe it was introduced too soon.
> >> Or maybe we should just accept that such a unification process will
> >> always burn a minority before becoming an improvement for (almost)
> >> everyone.
> >
> > That's true for almost all software. The devs aren't mind readers
> > and can't anticipate everyones' hardware or what tweaks they have
> > applied to the os.
> >
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