Realtek 8111e vs. Precise

[Ric Moore]

On 03/10/2013 03:49 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
> On 07/03/13 08:47, Ric Moore wrote:
>> On 03/06/2013 08:50 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>> On 05/03/13 05:26, MR ZenWiz wrote:
>>>> I picked up a new motherboard last Friday, an MSI 970A-G46, that has
>>>> the noted LAN controller on board, and when I first brought it up it
>>>> ran flawlessly.  Saturday morning I replaced one of my DVD writers and
>>>> my secondary hard disk, and the LAN died.  I thought it was the
>>>> hardware, since it was working before the power cycle, but I got an
>>>> exchange yesterday afternoon and it has the same problem.
>>> [pruned]
>>>
>>>> (I temporarily solved the problem by putting a PCI NIC in the box, and
>>>> that works fine, but it's old 10/100 and I prefer not to have to use
>>>> add-in cards for that sort of thing.)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> MR
>>>
>>> I just read Colin's post where he mentions the NIC and realised that I
>>> missed reading your opening post.
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, I built my own computer early last year. The
>>> motherboard is a Gigabyte. Exactly the same thing happened to me: the
>>> onboard LAN collapsed on the 3rid or 4th day following me doing some
>>> hardware additions. I didn't bother trying to work out the whys of it
>>> and just went out and bought a 1Gb PCIe NIC and installed it.
>>>
>>> In your case, did you really mean that you installed a PCI card or a
>>> PCIe card?
>>>
>>> For best performance, install the NIC as close to the cpu as possible.
>>> If it is a PCIe card then there is such a slot almost (well.... you know
>>> what I mean :-) ) on top of the cpu.
>>
>> I missed that as well... and I had picked up a used MSI mobo for
>> cheap, with a two core Intel CPU. Same thing. It died. I jammed in a
>> addon NIC card and forgot about it.
>>
>> Ha! Come to think on it again, I think it died because of that stamped
>> out piece of tin plate that guards the output ports, that you jam into
>> the case, had a finger stuck into the NIC output jack and fried it.
>> Ever since I just throw them away. <cackles> Ric
>
> I have rethinking about what occurred at my end to zap the onboard LAN.
>
> I always use an anti-static wrist-strap (but you prefer to shove your
> elbows into the sides of the casing, or something :-) ) so even if I
> accidentally shoved my finger (or even the stamped out piece of tin
> plate) into the LAN port nothing would have happened.

No, no, no ... I wrote the finger of that little tin stamped piece that 
comes with the motherboard, to keep dust from swirling in past the 
back-of-the-case modo ports... that shiny rectangular thing with all the 
little "fingers". One of those not aligned perfectly could and did stick 
into my NIC port and fried it when I powered up. I threw the offending 
SOB away. :) Ric

> But what DID happen, now that I think about it, is that the manual for
> the motherboard warns that the computer should not be "live" when you
> plug in the LAN cable from the modem/router.
>
> I ignored that warning because there were uncountable times I unplugged
> and replugged the cable at the modem/router's end - BUT this was
> *always* when having a NIC card installed and never using the onboard
> LAN - the Gigabyte mobo I was working on was the first ever mobo with an
> onboard LAN. It seems that the NIC card is more robust and is less
> affected by the sudden application of + and - current.
>
> BC
>


-- 
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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