12.04.2 LTS, new install, network broken

[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 09 July 2013 13:19:35 Dave Woyciesjes did opine:

> On 07/09/2013 12:54 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 09 July 2013 12:47:03 Dave Woyciesjes did opine:
> >> On 07/09/2013 12:21 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 09 July 2013 11:58:53 Dave Woyciesjes did opine:
> >>>> On 07/09/2013 08:56 AM, Nils Kassube wrote:
> >>>>> Tom H wrote:
> >>>>>> You can control resolv.conf via the configs of dhclient,
> >>>>>> ifupdown, and NM and "nail" it to be exactly what you want it to
> >>>>>> be. You have to use the tools with which you're provided rather
> >>>>>> than ignore them and try to get around them.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Another option would be to uninstall NM and resolvconf and
> >>>>> configure the network manually like it was done in the good old
> >>>>> days. Of course this is not a general advice for a newcomer. But
> >>>>> Gene has a rather special setup and AIUI he has no use for NM and
> >>>>> he knows how to setup the config files.
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 	Yep, that's Gene. He doesn't seem to have a need for a gui at
> >>> 
> >>> all...
> >>> 
> >>> Chuckle.  Hi Dave. :)
> >>> 
> >> 	Howdy... :) Just giving you some props. Seems some folks don't
> >> 
> >> appreciate your lovely fuzzy demeanor & brains.
> >> 
> >>> That isn't quite true, gui's are nice if they expand the horizons of
> >>> what can be done with them. Kde gives you a menu with hundreds of
> >>> ways to skin a cat.  So did Gnome. Unity, which seems based on a
> >>> list of favorites someplace, and while I assume there is a facility
> >>> to allow that to be expanded, one would wind up with a main window
> >>> that resembles my next door neighbors W8 machine with so many icons
> >>> covering the picture of her grandchildren that she has to move some
> >>> of them to get to the icon for the one she wants to run.  That very
> >>> quickly degenerates from eye candy into "Butt Ugly".
> >>> 
> >>> My 2 cents of course.  That won't buy much today of course.
> >>> 
> >>> I suppose a windows escapee would feel right at home though.  But
> >>> IMO, we shouldn't be striving to be "like windows", but better,
> >>> much better than windows.  This is the sort of work screens we had
> >>> on the amiga's running AmigaDOS3.2 in the 90's, but now its July
> >>> 2013  Can we not make some real, usability progress other than
> >>> increased color depth in 20 years?
> >>> 
> >>> Cheers, Gene
> >>> 
> >> 	From using Gnome3 for a while now, I'd say that Gnome3 is the way
> >> 
> >> forward; but that's my opinion. Others prefer Unity. KDE, on the
> >> other hand, still seems a bit behind.
> > 
> > The gnome based installs on the machinery computers are very usable. 
> > I could easily live with that.  How does the gnome of a 10.04.4
> > install compare to gnome3?
> 
> 	Gnome2 is in Ubuntu 10.04. Gnome3/Gnome Shell came in with IIRC 
Ubuntu
> 12.04. And it's quite different from Gnome2. It's like Unity....
> Personally, I call it Unity improved.
> 
> > FWIW, the kde in the stock kubuntu 12.04.2 seems to not be very well
> > configured and would need some tweaking. I've not had to do a
> > tremendous amount of tweaking on the machinery 10.4.4 installs, its
> > reasonably well polished, or is at least when its installed from the
> > respun linuxcnc cd.
> > 
> > Can you pop up a bash shell with the ctrl-alt-t combo?  That is at
> > least as handy as bottled beer.
> 
> 	Yep. Or whack the Windows key, type term, then choose between 
Terminal,
> UXTerm, or XTerm. :)
> 
The 'windows key'.  Humm, by golly there is something with a w95 flag on 
it, just one on this particular keyboard.  AFAIK its not mapped to do 
anything though.  But using such a key seems almost like inviting bad karma 
on a linux box. :)

> > Thanks Dave.
> > 
> > Cheers, Gene


Cheers, Gene
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