12.04.2 LTS, new install, network broken

Dave Woyciesjes woyciesjes at sbcglobal.net
Tue Jul 9 16:24:54 UTC 2013

On 07/09/2013 12:14 PM, Tom H wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Avi Greenbury <lists at avi.co> wrote:
>> Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> The question is, can NM and resolvconf be excised without excising the rest
>>> of the system? TBD. In any event their initiation scripts can be nuked if
>>> found.
>> You should be fine:
>>      avi at fantastic:~$ apt-get --simulate remove network-manager resolvconf
>>      NOTE: This is only a simulation!
>>            apt-get needs root privileges for real execution.
>>            Keep also in mind that locking is deactivated,
>>            so don't depend on the relevance to the real current situation!
>>      Reading package lists... Done
>>      Building dependency tree
>>      Reading state information... Done
>>      The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
>>        libllvm3.1:i386 linux-headers-3.8.0-18 linux-headers-3.8.0-18-generic linux-image-3.8.0-18-generic linux-image-extra-3.8.0-18-generic
>>      Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
>>      The following packages will be REMOVED
>>        network-manager network-manager-gnome resolvconf ubuntu-minimal
>>      0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 66 not upgraded.
>>      Remv network-manager-gnome []
>>      Remv network-manager []
>>      Remv ubuntu-minimal [1.299]
>>      Remv resolvconf [1.69ubuntu1]
>>      avi at fantastic:~$
> Is advising people to remove ubuntu-minimal (especially as a list
> admin) appropriate? If you don't want to use resolvconf on a system,
> disable it. If the few KB/MB that it takes up disturb you, use equivs
> to create a dummy replacement resolvconf package.

	Advising most people to remove it? No, not a good idea. But Gene H. is 
not most people. Also, he asked a specific question, and got the answer.

> # apt-cache show ubuntu-minimal
> Package: ubuntu-minimal
> Priority: important
> Section: metapackages
> ...
> Depends: adduser, apt, apt-utils, bzip2, console-setup, debconf,
> debconf-i18n, eject, gnupg, ifupdown, initramfs-tools, iproute,
> iputils-ping, isc-dhcp-client, kbd, less, locales, lsb-release,
> makedev, mawk, module-init-tools, net-tools, netbase, netcat-openbsd,
> ntpdate, passwd, procps, python3, resolvconf, rsyslog, sudo, tzdata,
> ubuntu-keyring, udev, upstart, ureadahead, vim-tiny, whiptail
> ...
> Description-en: Minimal core of Ubuntu
>   This package depends on all of the packages in the Ubuntu minimal system,
>   that is a functional command-line system with the following capabilities:
>   .
>    - Boot
>    - Detect hardware
>    - Connect to a network
>    - Install packages
>    - Perform basic diagnostics
>   .
>   It is also used to help ensure proper upgrades, so it is recommended that
>   it not be removed.
> ...

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