12.04.2 LTS, new install, network broken

[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 09 July 2013 00:36:58 Ric Moore did opine:

> On 07/07/2013 09:17 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 07 July 2013 09:01:05 Liam Proven did opine:
> >> On 7 July 2013 12:45, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 200 lines of ranting and complaining are not offset by thanks at the
> >>> end. Life's too short.
> >>> 
> >>> Sorry, Gene. Come back when you can control your temper.
> >> 
> >> By the way, if you're another Unity hater (I am tired of reading that
> >> & skip any message containing that particular bit of bigotry)  & you
> >> want Kmail, then why on Earth are you using the Unity edition? Go try
> >> Kubuntu. It doesn't use GNOME network manager, which you seem to hate
> >> so much.
> > 
> > My whole point in that is:  If it cannot do the job its purported to
> > be assigned, how did it ever get past QC?
> > 
> > At no point here, has anyone offered to help me understand how to do
> > such a mundane thing as make the networking actually work, when the
> > user/installer has no access to the apply button in the gui tools
> > provided.
> > 
> > All I have been told to do is undo that which I did, and which works.
> > 
> > I know things change, hopefully to work even better, but regressive
> > change is not progress.  This "Unity" you called it is regressive.
> > Eye candy with no purpose that I have been able to detect.
> > 
> >>From what I have read in this folder, since I dump kubuntu posts into
> >>this
> >>
> > folder too, one gets a better working kubuntu by pulling in kde than
> > you get from a kubuntu install.  So thats next I guess.
> 
> Gene, you do not use the standard kernel, if I've read you right in the
> past. It's not impossible that your kernel doesn't get all the attention
> that a stock kernel enjoys and that there is a burp in the barrel?

Its had zero attention because the rtai patch is a cast iron bitch to mold 
to a given kernel version.  So there are several burps in the barrel by 
now.  The strange thing is that when the sleeps happen, its as if the 
software interrupt it needs to send a message as a for instant, gets lost.  
The rest of the system is fine except kmail is frozen in its tracks, while 
gkrellm is showing  all 4 cores running at 2 or 3%, the machine isn't busy 
at all.

> And/or 12.04 has problems with it that you didn't have with 10.04?  It's
> worth considering. It would be interesting to see if Thunderbird has the
> same problems. It's all I use now. Ric

Not the same kernel Ric. the 10.04.4 install uses a highly modified 2.6.32 
kernel wit the rtai patch kit.  The target for the 12.04.2 installs is the 
xenomai kit on a 3.5.7 kernel.  And while the realtime performance of the 
2.6.32+rtai kernel is great, that patch has not kept pace with kernel 
changes, and the xenomai kit was easier to get working.  But we are leading 
up to a stable 2.6 release of Linuxcnc, and the kernel in the released 
version will likely be even newer than 3.5.7.

As for the mail, my corpus is over a decade old, much of it converted to 
maildir formats since kmail falls over face first in its morning oatmeal 
when an individual mailfile exceed 2Gb.  Setting up a big folder list in T-
Bird is less than intuitive.  But the real 128 thousand dollar question is 
how to migrate this email corpus to T-Bird, and setup a matching set of 
sort filters.  I haven't a clue.

Cheers, Gene
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