12.04.2 LTS, new install, network broken

Gene Heskett gheskett at wdtv.com
Sun Jul 7 17:06:48 UTC 2013

On Sunday 07 July 2013 12:35:59 Liam Proven did opine:

> On 7 July 2013 14:17, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday 07 July 2013 09:01:05 Liam Proven did opine:
> >> On 7 July 2013 12:45, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > 200 lines of ranting and complaining are not offset by thanks at
> >> > the end. Life's too short.
> >> > 
> >> > Sorry, Gene. Come back when you can control your temper.
> >> 
> >> By the way, if you're another Unity hater (I am tired of reading that
> >> & skip any message containing that particular bit of bigotry)  & you
> >> want Kmail, then why on Earth are you using the Unity edition? Go try
> >> Kubuntu. It doesn't use GNOME network manager, which you seem to hate
> >> so much.
> > 
> > My whole point in that is:  If it cannot do the job its purported to
> > be assigned, how did it ever get past QC?
> Works for me & about 20M other users.
> > At no point here, has anyone offered to help me understand how to do
> > such a mundane thing as make the networking actually work, when the
> > user/installer has no access to the apply button in the gui tools
> > provided.
> You've not given us much info, e.g. network config. You won't even
> disclose the LAN address. It's a private address FFS! There is
> absolutely zero security reason.
> I told you mine works with a nonzero 192.168.x.y address & you took it
> as an attempt to guess yours! WTF? if that helps. Now, the text data entry boxes background in 
this gnome-network-manager turns red when you have obviously made a typu, 
but what color is it supposed to be when its happy?  All I've ever seen is 
either red, or about the color of an orange, don't recall ever seeing 
green.  Is that supposed to be telling me something?
> > All I have been told to do is undo that which I did, and which works.
> Content-free.

I moved a known good resolv.conf into /etc/ and made it immutable, I 
thought that was rather clearly stated as to what I was going to do.
> > I know things change, hopefully to work even better, but regressive
> > change is not progress.  This "Unity" you called it is regressive.
> > Eye candy with no purpose that I have been able to detect.
> I like it. So do many others. PEBCAK.

Lemmings fleeing from windoze maybe? I've only owned a windoze machine for 
about 6 months, when I bought a lappy to take on the road when I was at 
some other tv station putting out technical fires. It got mandrake 
installed on it 30 minutes after I'd rigged a place to set it here in this 
midden heap.  To me, the windows install was there ONLY to supply teh 
wireless driver, and when I found the windows version of the driver also 
didn't work more than 30 seconds before it disconnected, the whole drive 
was formatted for linux at the next install.

FWIW Liam, I was carving code in 1978 for an RCA 1802 mpu by looking up the 
nemonic in the RCA programmers manual and entering it into memory with a 
hex monitor, saving and recovering it using a broadcast audio cart machine 
that was too slow to play commercials recorded in other machines.  The data 
didn't care.  That code was good enough that it was still in use 15 years 
later. Possibly up until digital was turned on here in the USA in 2008.  In 
1978 you were?

> > From what I have read in this folder, since I dump kubuntu posts into
> > this folder too, one gets a better working kubuntu by pulling in kde
> > than you get from a kubuntu install.  So thats next I guess.
> Don't believe it, myself, but feel free.

I pulled in about 1.5Gb of kde, plus about a dozen other utility's I like, 
old school stuff you would probably say, like mc and vim (although I am 
getting used to gedit now) and as it installed kdm it asked me to set the 
kdm window manager (or lightkdm) during the install and on the reboot I saw 
the kdm "gear" for about 5 seconds after I logged in, then it reverted to 
unity.  When I finally did figure out how to check, kdm claims its running.  

How does one do a "switchdesk kde" in 2013?

Thank you.

Cheers, Gene
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