Non-PAE kernel in 12.10

[Ric Moore]

On 02/25/2013 12:04 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
> On 24 February 2013 20:46, Karl Auer <kauer at biplane.com.au> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 16:42 +0000, Liam Proven wrote:
>>> On 24 February 2013 04:07, Karl Auer <kauer at biplane.com.au> wrote:
>>> "This kernel requires the following features not present on
>>>> the CPU: Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU."
>>> Are you missing a word there? It does not specify what feature is missing.
>>
>> Er possibly. If so, the word was "PAE" :-)
>>
>>> However, the documented method for 12.04 with non-PAE chips is as follows:
>>
>> Thank you for that recipe - very useful (and to others, I'm sure).
>>
>>>> I would really like to be able to put Ubuntu on all this old hardware,
>>>> which is by no means dead yet. T41p, T42, R50, T30 - all still going
>>>> strong...
>>
>> I've chucked teh T21 (just too woefully slow with 11.04, which did
>> install) and the T42 (which, it turned out, was, in fact, dead). Leaves
>> an R50 which took an age to install, but is now working acceptably fast
>> with 11.04, and a T41p, which still seems OK and will boot 11.04.
>
> Ahh, another Thinkpad fan! :¬)
>
> Oddly, much of Ubuntu is /developed/ on Thinkpads. Was back around
> 2005, I was lucky enough to go for dinner with the SABDFL and to visit
> his flat for a drink afterwards. Not a desktop to be seen, but half a
> dozen Thinkpads in the living-room alone.
>
> I currently run a huge Toshiba, a small elderly Thinkpad, a very
> elderly 14" Thinkpad & an Asus netbook. (And an iBook.) If I had the
> money, I'd downsize to a tiny Thinkpad and a big one and that's it.
> But finances, sadly, do not permit.
>
>>> I may try a different desktop, or indeed, whole distro.
>>
>> Me too. The last Ubuntu that was stable and good was 10.04-1. Every
>> version since then has taken one or more steps backward (admittedly
>> often with steps forward as well), and has become less reliable. I am
>> now boot 12.04 every couple of days - 10.04-1 was rock solid.
>
> I have to glumly agree.
>
>> It is
>> almost certainly a gnome3/gnome-shell problem, but I would not have to
>> run GNOME3 if Ubuntu properly supported a reasonable desktop (Unity is
>> not reasonable).
>
> Ah, well, I do not care for GNOME 3 at all and none of my Thinkpads
> have 3D hardware so it's not an option anyway.
>
> I spent 4 or 5 hours last night resurrecting an ancient install of
> Linux Mint Debian Edition on the X31. Unused for nearly a year; I had
> switched to Lubuntu.
>
> Last night, I updated it, removed GNOME 3 and LXDE and installed
> WindowMaker and a suite of NeXT-like apps to go with it. Now, it looks
> absolutely lovely and runs very quickly and responsively indeed for a
> 9YO machine. Only once I am in Firefox 18 or Chrome can I feel the CPU
> struggling a little.

I have an R-32 that I have beat the Dickens out of, to get something to 
install. So, I put 10.4 on it, ignored the non-existent updates and did 
several dist-upgrades in succession. So, it's now running 12.04. It 
absolutely refused to install directly with 12.04 and I have XFCE 
running. Still slow though. So, do you recommend installing Windowmaker 
first, then removing everything else? Hopefully it won't go boom as the 
install took forever brutishly installing/upgrading as I did. Thanks for 
any pointers.

It IS a shame that older functional iron gets left in the dirt. It seems 
like any gains I make in improving hardware becomes diminished by 
software demands. IMHO! it would be better to have "slim and mean" 
installed first, and if you want to pile a bunch of daemons and other 
cpu wasting junk on, thus making your install less responsive, then you 
have only yourself to blame. Having an initial install that looks like a 
pinball machine, full of flashy-thingies and beeps, discourages those 
who the Ubuntu ethic was to be applied to ...the less fortunate users 
with minimal hardware. Ric



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