Connecting to public wifi hotspots

[Avi Greenbury]

JD wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Karl Auer <kauer at biplane.com.au> wrote:
>     We understand. You do not seem to understand that getting a hotspot
>     login page to you requires trickery, and that one common form of
>     trickery is to muck about with the DNS. That's why everyone is so
>     focussed on getting you to do some simple tests and tell us what
>     happens.
> Sorry!
> I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DO THAT AT ALL. NO ONE SHOULD!!

I'm afraid that, in order to fix computers, sometimes you need to use
tools designed for fixing computers. 

Think of it like a broken down car - nobody should need to fix their car
themselves. Cars should simply work and not break down. But
occasionally they do, and you may decide that rather than paying
someone to fix it you will do so yourself, and so you go out and buy a
manual for it and set aside some time to, essentially, find out how to
diagnose and fix this problem. 

You would, in the process, learn a bit about how your car works, and
maybe discover a new tool or two. You might even need to acquire some
new tools. This is, essentially, what you have done here - you've
posted an email to a big group of people using Ubuntu and said "I have
a problem" and we've all assumed that you're looking for that manual
and that list of tools to use.

Of course, you might decide not to do that - perhaps you decide that
you shouldn't need to learn how to swap an alternator in order to use
a car. And you'd be right. So you just take it to the garage where
there are people paid to fix cars, who already have all the tools and
expertise, and you pay them to fix it. You could, perhaps, do this
with your computer, depending on whether you can find someone locally
who can be paid to fix a Linux desktop.

> I hope your answer would not be the answer from either Ubuntu Devs
> or FF Devs!!! Because if it is, then they blew it. Why is it a no brainer
> on windoze?

Because something is broken on your Ubuntu install. If you are
unwilling to use tools to try to find and repair the problem then you
have two choices:

1) Find someone who is willing to use these tools and get them to try
   it (you might need to pay them for this)
2) Try reinstalling the OS and see if that fixes this

Obviously, #2 is far easier on a computer than in my car analogy above
:) Any bug report you file will be accepted on the understanding that
you are interested in helping fix this problem; if you are not
interested so, then I'd probably advise against even filing the bub
report.

> Unable???
> Unwilling?
> Paleaze!!!
> 
> I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO!!!!!

So it sounds like it's unwilling rather than unable. If you'd like to
get this problem fixed, then there's a number of us with perhaps now
dwindling patience willing to talk you through running tests and
interpreting their results such that we can help you fix this. We
cannot fix this for you, we can only help you.

If you're not willing to do any of this then I don't see the need to
carry this thread on; I can't see what anyone is getting out of it.

-- 
Avi