Probably stupid question, but

Liam Proven lproven at gmail.com
Wed Aug 28 12:49:02 UTC 2013


On 28 August 2013 02:07, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 August 2013 20:32:44 Liam Proven did opine:
>
>> On 27 August 2013 21:05, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> wrote:
>> > Provided they did the sudo when they ran it.
>>
>> *Sigh*
>>
>> No.
>>
>> If I meant that, I'd have said that. Do you seriously think that
>> Canonical would make users run a graphical tool, part of the system's
>> main UI, from the terminal with `sudo`? Don't be ridiculous. Of
>> *COURSE* not.
>>
> Then why doesn't it ask for the users passwd so it has root rights if the
> user asks it to install something?

It does, when it needs it. In the GUI; you do not need to run it with `sudo`.

If you used the OS as it was meant to be used and stopped trying to
crowbar it into action with outdated methods, you would know this.


> I long since learned that to run it from the menu is useless because then
> it runs as the user and has no rights.

Then you have learned wrongly and believe something incorrect and untrue.

>   Fix that, and I heartily agree that
> it should be run from the menu pulldowns.  Until then, its open a terminal,
> "sudo synaptic", enter passwd, and have root rights to do what you want.

Wrong way. *Again*.

The reason you are having so much pain and suffering is that you
refuse to learn the right way to do things and persist in outdated or
just plain wrong things. The error here is not the software; it's you.

> And have quite a few times.  But I don't google for stuff like folding a T-
> Shirt because I know how, and my fold will, given a couple days in the
> drawer, actually do a passable job of removing the too long in the dryer
> wrinkles.

And again, you miss my point. My point was not about folding anything.
My point was, learn to accept that others know better than you, go
seek their advice and follow it.

You refuse to do this. You know how to do things your own way and
absolutely insist on doing it that way, even when your way is broken.
And then when things do not work, you complain that they are broken.

That is why I generally refuse to help you on this list any more. You
are incapable of taking advice or guidance. When it is freely given to
you, you grumble and complain and insist that the product is is
broken.

I really regret entering into this thread. I think it is better for my
sanity and the level of noise on the list if I just killfile you.

> And I learned something, he is in effect not stacking 2 regular knots, but
> doing a bowline by reversing the second, top knot.  Bowlines naturally pull
> themselves tighter.

Wrong lesson. Maybe a useful one, but not the one that the video is
trying to teach.

> You can recognize a diabetic that has been that way for a while, he will be
> wearing heavy woolen socks in 80(F) degree weather.

My mother (75) has diabetes, after nearly 4 decades of caring for my
diabetic father, who died 26 years ago. I am familiar with the
problems and very much hope to avoid them. :¬(

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