This does NOT go towards making a good impression :-(

Basil Chupin blchupin at
Mon Apr 1 11:44:06 UTC 2013

On 01/04/13 21:45, Colin Law wrote:
> On 1 April 2013 10:46, Basil Chupin <blchupin at> wrote:
>> On 01/04/13 19:01, Colin Law wrote:
>>> On 1 April 2013 05:48, Basil Chupin <blchupin at> wrote:
>>>> Seeing as how I try and help users here re their problems with Ubuntu,
>>>> and
>>>> seeing as how I did once, long mong ago and in a galaxy far far away, use
>>>> Ubuntu for a short period, I thought that I would install a copy of 12.04
>>>> LTS.
>>>> So, I downloaded a copy of the 86_64 iso but the only version which I can
>>>> find is something called 12.04.2. OK, I says to myself so it's 12.04.2.
>>>> Pish! No worries! But then I thought that I would refresh my memory about
>>>> the installation procedure because something at the back of my mind
>>>> niggled
>>>> me about and "alternate" version which gave one more options when
>>>> installing
>>>> - and I want to install this in a very special place and have the
>>>> bootloader
>>>> in a special place. And so I go and download 12.04.2 Alternate iso. I
>>>> burn
>>>> it to a DVD (a CD is too small) and I boot this DVD.
>>> As others have said, 12.04.2 is just 12.04 with later updates included
>>> to save downloading and installing them after installation.  Also as
>>> others have said if you have a 2G USB stick and can boot off USB then
>>> that is a better option as it runs much faster.  Instructions for
>>> burning a stick are on
>> This response is also aimed @ Jarred and Nils.
>> The point of my post is that the normal way for someone interested in trying
>> out a new distro is to follow ones' nose and download and use what is
>> readily available and what one is pointed to when, say, going to the main
>> page of the site which spouts the merits of the distro - as is the case of
>> Ubuntu.
> Sorry, I thought you were asking for help.  By trying to use the
> alternated CD, however, you are not going the normal route for
> installing.  If one were following one's nose one would download the
> normal desktop install.
>> One would need to be well versed in how to put the Live CD, for example,
>> onto an USB stick to be able to either run Ubuntu in Live mode or even to
>> install it.
> Easy instructions on as I stated.
>> You are speaking like the typical people who know what you doing and not
>> someone who knows nothing but has heard the Siren's call and decided to try
>> out Ubuntu - and following the Siren's call they hit a brick wall when they
>> download the Alternate version of 12.04 - which is now called 12.04.2 which,
>> as you all state, is an updated version of 12.04.
> I was just trying to help.
>> However, updated to what when one cannot use it to install Ubuntu? It's a
>> 702MB piece of useless 0s and 1s.
>>> The first thing I did after booting into 12.04.2 was to check the DVD for
>>> errors. Off it goes and checks itself for errors. There aren't any. And
>>> the
>>> message on the screen "tells" me to Continue. I press every known key to
>>> humanity but 12.04.2 just sits there - like someone turned into stone
>>> after
>>> looking at Medusa.
>>> I have not used the alternate image, was it the case that you had to
>>> tab round to the right field before hitting enter?
>> Colin, read my post. The whole thing FROZE and would not accept any input of
>> any kind from either mouse or keyboard.
> The reason I asked this is that the first time I encountered a text
> display providing options I was confused, expecting to be able to
> click over the OK button, or whatever it was, and only eventually
> realising that I had to tab to the right field.  The effect is that
> nothing appears to work unless one tries the tab key.  I just wanted
> to make sure that you had not fallen into the same trap as I did.  As
> I said I have not recently used the alternate CD so I don't know
> whether this could have been the problem or not.  Did you try the tab
> key?
>>> "OK", I thinks to meself, "these things can happen so
>>> let's just reboot and go for the jugular - the Install bit".
>>> And so I reboot, press ENTER on the preselected English language, the DVD
>>> whirls away and gets to the next screen ------ and the bloody thing
>>> freezes
>>> solid again! It just sits there like a stunned mullet!
>>> What was on the screen at this point?
>> Whatever the next option is in the installation process. I am not about to
>> retry the whole sheebang to see exactly what that was, sorry.
> As I said I am only trying to help, which I cannot do unless I know at
> what point it failed.
> Colin


Sorry if I have shown some shortness or disrespect in my response. I 
know that you are trying to help and I appreciate it.

For my part my response, or responses over the past day or so but 
especially the past several hours have been affected by personal 
circumstances which I don't wish to go into except to say that I am 
sorry that they have affected my behaviour.

What I wrote about trying to use the Alternate version of 12.04.2 is as 
I described: I booted into the CD (DVD in fact as I mentioned) and after 
pressing ENTER against the INSTALL option and then pressing ENTER 
against the default English language on the list of available languages, 
the whole thing simply froze - "never to go again". Pressing all the 
available keys on the keyboard did nothing. The only button on the 
computer which actually made things happen was the RESET button on the 

I cannot add anything more to what I just stated - except to say that I 
did install Ubuntu from the Live CD.


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