Auto-hiding the applications bar

Joep L. Blom jlblom at
Wed Dec 5 22:57:52 UTC 2012

On 05/12/12 23:36, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 December 2012 17:05:39 JD did opine:
>> On 12/05/2012 02:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 05 December 2012 16:19:46 JD did opine:
>>>> On 12/05/2012 01:59 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday 05 December 2012 15:57:41 JD did opine:
>>>>>> On 12/05/2012 01:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday 05 December 2012 15:36:56 JD did opine:
>>>>>>>> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
>>>>>>>> charset=ISO-8859-1"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
>>>>>>>> text="#000000"> <font size="+1"><font face="Console">Running
>>>>>>>> ubuntu 12.10 with latest updates.<br> How can I force the apps
>>>>>>>> menu bar on the left side of the screen t<font size="+1">o<br>
>>>>>>>> <font size="+1">go into auto-hide once the pointer is moved away
>>>>>>>> from it?<br> <br>
>>>>>>>> </font></font></font></font> </body> </html>
>>>>>>> There are many on this list who will ignore your pure html posts.
>>>>>>> Please put your copy of thunderbird into the text only mode and
>>>>>>> repost your questions.
>>>>>>> We also don't top post reply's here, but usually intersperse them
>>>>>>> so it reads like a normal conversation.
>>>>>>> Cheers, Gene
>>>>>> OK, here goes:
>>>>>> Running ubuntu 12.10 with latest updates.
>>>>> Since this is an interface question, which gui are you using? gnome,
>>>>> kde, xfce etc etc.
>>>> Gnome!
>>> That leaves me out then.  I have 2 boxes running my milling machine
>>> and lathe but that is 10.04.4 LTS, and the pager is always on it the
>>> toolbar across the bottom of the screen for that release.  I have
>>> just enough kde installed here to get kmail, on an otherwise
>>> identical install, so that's what I have here also.  Setup for 10
>>> workspaces.
>>>>>> How can I force the apps menu bar on the left side of the screen to
>>>>>> go into auto-hide once the pointer is moved away from it?
>>> So obviously I will defer to the real gnome experts here, and there
>>> are several.
>>> Cheers, Gene
>> Thank you Gene ...
>> but I am surprised by the incredible quietness of this mailing
>> list. When I was on the fedora list, at least 100 messages per day,
>> except on weekends and holidays.
>> So which list do all the Ubuntu'ites hang out at?
> Actually, I think that has more to do with the level of preparedness
> exerted in getting ready to publish a new release.  Fedora seems to take
> less care, making use of the users to fuss & patch the thing till it works.
> By then of course they next release is only days away.  Fedora users are
> Red Hats test & fix cadre, for free, as in no sheckles change hands in
> either direction.  Sadly, that is not the same for the headaches when it
> doesn't do what you want it to, they seem to be transmitted only from
> Fedora to the user.
> 2 reasons I am here, one being that on average a ubuntu cd installs and
> generally just works(TM) unless the user, in this case you, asks how to get
> a different behavior, and the app (LinuxCNC) that runs my cnc mill and
> lathe, needs a specifically patched kernel to be able to run in real time,
> where a 20 microsecond lag in issuing the next step to the motors could
> result in a stall which is unknown to the program, and that stall leads to
> broken carbide tools at $15-$60 a click, not to mention a wrecked part that
> you may already have 4 hours of carving time in and possibly several pounds
> of steel swarf to clean up before you can reset, mount a new piece of
> material and restart from scratch when the stall occurs.
> The other reason of course is the quite high level of Just Works(TM) I get
> from this version.  And the relatively low rate of building a special app,
> and finding it won't because the required library and its headers simply
> aren't available without also building them from a tarball. PCLOS for
> instance is a great distro, until you want to run eagle to design a circuit
> board, or freecad to do some serious part design,  Then you have to find
> the tarballs and build another 500 megs worth of libraries.  Thanks to the
> ubuntu folks 90% of that isn't needed anymore.  And I'm a much happier
> camper, at 78 yo I am actually doing something, not fighting with a distro
> that has a different mold their user is supposed to fit into.
> FWIW, and totally off topic, Dave Brubeck died earlier, and bbc news has a
> nice video eulogy up already.  He left very large footprints in the sands
> of musical time for the last 70 of his 91 years.  He is one of those elders
> I respected greatly.
> Cheers, Gene
As a jazz pianist 17 years his younger, I second your laudation of Dave 
Brubeck. His work even at his high age shows that (jazz) music keeps you 
young, busy and active.

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