Shuttleworth (SABDFL) wants to shutdown this ubuntu.user list

Sharl.Jimh.Tsin amoiz.shine at
Thu Sep 29 03:13:34 UTC 2011

在 2011-09-28三的 17:48 -0700,NoOp写道:
> Culled from the recent threads via Alan Pope regarding '[Admin]
> Additional moderator':
> Shuttleworth states that they should just shut the Ubuntu users list
> down (Mark Shuttleworth is 'sabdfl'[1]:
> :
> [aiee, we should just shut that baby down]
> [i'm happy to take the shutdown bullets on -users]
> [even if it's of the 'last chance, fred's agreed to moderate, if (s)he
> gives up, we shut down the list']
> Given the past results from the Sounder list I reckon that this list is
> probably on it's last legs (IMO). And before anyone here ask: no I don't
> plan to volunteer to be a moderator... I get enough flack already for
> being a quasi-listmom on occasion.
> So if any of you wish to object to the benevolent founder comments a the
> last Community Council meeting, you can login to the upcoming one to
> voice your opinion:
> "The next meeting is scheduled for 4th October 2011, 21:00 UTC and will
> be held in #ubuntu-meeting on"
> Have at it & good luck. I reckon that I'll start spending more time on
> non-Ubuntu lists & newsgroups.
> [1]
> <quote>
> This is not a democracy, it's a meritocracy. We try to operate more on
> consensus than on votes, seeking agreement from the people who will have
> to do the work. Mark Shuttleworth, as self-appointed benevolent dictator
> for life (SABDFL), plays a happily undemocratic role as sponsor of the
> project. He has the ability, with regard to Canonical employees, to ask
> people to work on specific projects, specific feature goals and specific
> bugs.
> He also has a casting vote on the Technical Board and Community Council,
> should it come to a vote. This capacity is not used lightly. The
> community functions best when it can reach broad consensus about a way
> forward. However, it is not uncommon in the open-source world for there
> to be multiple good arguments, no clear consensus, and for arguments to
> divide communities rather than enrich them. The argument absorbs the
> energy that might otherwise have gone towards the creation of a
> solution. In many cases, there is no one 'right' answer, and what is
> needed is a decision more than a debate. The sabdfl acts to provide
> clear leadership on difficult issues, and set the pace for the project.
> </quote>

that's bad.

Best regards,
Sharl.Jimh.Tsin (From China **Obviously Taiwan INCLUDED**)

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