Shuttleworth (SABDFL) wants to shutdown this ubuntu.user list

Sharl.Jimh.Tsin amoiz.shine at gmail.com
Thu Sep 29 03:13:34 UTC 2011


在 2011-09-28三的 17:48 -0700,NoOp写道:
> Culled from the recent threads via Alan Pope regarding '[Admin]
> Additional moderator':
> 
> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/09/20/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t11:00
> Shuttleworth states that they should just shut the Ubuntu users list
> down (Mark Shuttleworth is 'sabdfl'[1]:
> :
> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/09/20/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t11:10
> [aiee, we should just shut that baby down]
> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/09/20/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t11:44
> [i'm happy to take the shutdown bullets on -users]
> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/09/20/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t11:45
> [even if it's of the 'last chance, fred's agreed to moderate, if (s)he
> gives up, we shut down the list']
> 
> Given the past results from the Sounder list I reckon that this list is
> probably on it's last legs (IMO). And before anyone here ask: no I don't
> plan to volunteer to be a moderator... I get enough flack already for
> being a quasi-listmom on occasion.
> 
> So if any of you wish to object to the benevolent founder comments a the
> last Community Council meeting, you can login to the upcoming one to
> voice your opinion:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
> "The next meeting is scheduled for 4th October 2011, 21:00 UTC and will
> be held in #ubuntu-meeting on irc.ubuntu.com."
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20111004T21
> 
> Have at it & good luck. I reckon that I'll start spending more time on
> non-Ubuntu lists & newsgroups.
> 
> 
> [1]
> http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/governance
> <quote>
> SABDFL
> 
> This is not a democracy, it's a meritocracy. We try to operate more on
> consensus than on votes, seeking agreement from the people who will have
> to do the work. Mark Shuttleworth, as self-appointed benevolent dictator
> for life (SABDFL), plays a happily undemocratic role as sponsor of the
> project. He has the ability, with regard to Canonical employees, to ask
> people to work on specific projects, specific feature goals and specific
> bugs.
> 
> He also has a casting vote on the Technical Board and Community Council,
> should it come to a vote. This capacity is not used lightly. The
> community functions best when it can reach broad consensus about a way
> forward. However, it is not uncommon in the open-source world for there
> to be multiple good arguments, no clear consensus, and for arguments to
> divide communities rather than enrich them. The argument absorbs the
> energy that might otherwise have gone towards the creation of a
> solution. In many cases, there is no one 'right' answer, and what is
> needed is a decision more than a debate. The sabdfl acts to provide
> clear leadership on difficult issues, and set the pace for the project.
> </quote>
> 
> 

that's bad.

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Sharl.Jimh.Tsin (From China **Obviously Taiwan INCLUDED**)

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