[SOLVED] Thunderbird/gmane?

Jim Byrnes jf_byrnes at comcast.net
Tue Sep 20 00:26:19 UTC 2011

On 09/18/2011 10:56 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote:
> On 09/18/2011 07:20 PM, NoOp wrote:
>> On 09/18/2011 03:03 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote:
>>> On 09/18/2011 02:17 PM, NoOp wrote:
>> ...
>>>> I can replicate. In TB 6.0.2 I show over 248K in unread messages.
>>>> Normally when I have that many in a newsgroup that I frequent often, I
>>>> 'mark as read by date'. I just did this to mark all as read since the
>>>> 17th. As soon as it started I got the javascript error:
>>>> ====
>>>> A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding.
>>>> You can stop the script now, or you can continue to see if the script
>>>> will complete.
>>>> Script: chrome://messenger/content/markByDate.js:137
>>>> ===
>>>> At that point I can either elect to stop the script or continue. I
>>>> select 'Continue' TB greys out for a second (expected), and I get the
>>>> message again (not expected). This time I tick the 'Don't ask me again'
>>>> box and again click 'Continue'. TB greys out (expected as it is sucking
>>>> CPU& it takes a very long time to go through 248K+ headers), but no
>>>> more script error, and finally my unread count is 15. So give that a
>>>> try
>>>> Jim& see if it finally completes for you.
>>> My experience is about the same. When I clicked 'Continue' it did not
>>> pop back up. It continued to completion and my unread count was set
>>> correctly, but I no longer had access to previously read messages, did
>>> you?
>>> Maybe I am completely misunderstanding what should happen. Based on
>>> what you wrote a couple of days ago that an advantage of gmane was you
>>> would have 240,000 threaded messages available to search. I thought
>>> that I could set it to see only unread messages, but if for some reason
>>> I wanted to see an old one, I could tell it to show all and I would have
>>> access to them.
>> You can; click 'Quick Fiter:Unread'. That will show only unread
>> messages. Re-click and it will show all, read and unread. You can of
>> course add 'View' on the menus which allows for a quick dropdown of:
>> All
>> Unread
>> Tags
>> Custom Views
>> People I know
>> Recent Mail
>> Last 5 Days
>> Not Junk
>> Has Attachments
>> Save View as Folder
>> Customize
>>> After all of this fussing around with settings I can see that the
>>> performance penalty far exceeds any real need I have to search them all.
>> Performance is only related to initial setup etc. Of course if you do a
>> search, realize that it is searching through over 240K of headers.
> I never get past the initial setup. After they are all downloaded and I
> switch to another NG there is a long delay. Then if I switch back there
> is another long delay and all the read messages have disappeared.
> Looking at the .msf file confirms this as it is much smaller than right
> after the download. It late now so I'll give it another go tomorrow.
>>> I've realized that ideally having all the messages of any thread that
>>> has unread messages in it is what I want. I realize that there is a
>>> view-->threads-->threads with unread but I can't get that to work any
>>> better than view all. I've sort of been doing that with this thread by
>>> as soon as I open a message I immediately mark it as unread that way the
>>> whole thread is accessible by me.
>>> Again maybe I don't understand how it is designed to work.
>> I'm not sure I actually understand.
>> ...
>> NB:Wow, just opened TB 6.0.2 on the laptop (64bit) and realized how
>> kludgy TB displays headers... even normal header takes up nearly 2
>> inches. Installed 'CompactHeader' to get it back to normal. I reckon I'm
>> spoiled by SeaMonkey.
> I was satisfied with Seamonkey when I was using it but kept getting
> messages that it was an unsupported browser. My isp and the new Yahoo
> mail are a couple of examples. I can't remember is User Agent Switcher
> solved the problem or not. I finally just got tired of trying to work
> around their shortsightedness and switched.
> I'll have a look at CompactHeader because yess, Tbird does take up alot
> of space.
> Regards, Jim

I finally can see the behavior you and others have described. I created 
a new test profile and set up a gmane account. Then I subscribed to 
ubuntu.users and let it download all the headers.  Once it got past the 
initial performance hit I was able to view read and unread messages just 
like I wanted.  Then I went to the default profile and unsubscribed from 
all gmane groups and then deleted the account.  After I recreated them 
all I had access to all the messages.

Not a very elegant solution but maybe it will help someone in the 
future. I tried to compare the two profiles for differences but could 
not see any.  What ever I did to the original profile was buried so deep 
I couldn't find it.

regards,  Jim

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