Thunderbird/gmane?

Jim Byrnes jf_byrnes at comcast.net
Sun Sep 18 20:51:24 UTC 2011


On 09/18/2011 01:16 PM, Jeff G. wrote:
> On 09/18/2011 08:25 AM, Jim Byrnes wrote:
>> On 09/18/2011 09:12 AM, Jeff G. wrote:
>>> On 09/18/2011 06:50 AM, Jim Byrnes wrote:
>>>> On 09/17/2011 10:35 AM, sktsee wrote:
>>>>> On 09/17/2011 09:15 AM, Jim Byrnes wrote:
>>>>>> I apologize for starting a new thread with the same name as my old
>>>>>> one.
>>>>>> When reading the reply from sktsee I clicked on the menu to check his
>>>>>> recommendations, the message was marked as read and I no long had
>>>>>> access
>>>>>> to it. For convenience I have copied and pasted the original from the
>>>>>> archives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/16/2011 03:35 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Following some advice I received here I started to read the list on
>>>>>> gmane. I like it and it is working well except I can't see any old
>>>>>> messages. Once I read a message and close that account the next
>>>>>> time I
>>>>>> open gmane I don't see anything I have read previously.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have View-->Threads set to all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Settings--> Sync & Storage is as follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Disk Space - No entries are checked
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recover Disk Space - Don't delete any messages is checked
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remove bodies from msg more than 30 days old is checked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a version of Seamonkey on this machine and it will let me see
>>>>>> old
>>>>>> messages. The settings seem to be the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What other settings do I need to change in Thunderbird?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, Thunderbird makes message display filtering harder than it
>>>>>> should be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> View -> Messages -> All
>>>>>> View -> Threads -> All
>>>>>> Quick Filter button "Show only unread messages" should be unchecked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> sktsee
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see a menu item View -> Messages -> All
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh right, I forgot that it doesn't show up unless you add the "Mail
>>>>> Views" object to the mail toolbar. Go View->Toolbars->Customize->drag
>>>>> Mail View to mail toolbar. Set selector to all.
>>>>
>>>> OK, I have done this and it is set to all.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You might also check the indivdual retention policy of the newsgroup.
>>>>> Right click on the newsgroup -> Properties -> Retention Policy tab ->
>>>>> make sure it uses "My account settings", or either that the individual
>>>>> settings are sensible. While you have the Folder Properties window
>>>>> open
>>>>> you could click on the Repair Folder button located on the General
>>>>> Information tab and see if that helps.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did both of these steps but still can't see messages that have been
>>>> read.
>>>>
>>>> To summarize my settings:
>>>>
>>>> View-->Folders-->All
>>>> View-->Sort by-->Order received
>>>> View-->Messages-->All
>>>> View-->Threads-->All
>>>> View-->Headers-->Normal
>>>> View-->Message Body-->Plain text
>>>> Newsgroup-->Properties-->Retention Policy-->My Account Settings
>>>> Account Settings-->Synchronization&storage-->Don't delete any messages
>>>>
>>>> What else could be effecting me viewing previously read messages?
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> close Tbird and go to your profile folder. sub-folder News holds several
>>> .msf files - delete them /and/ the file named panacea.dat in the next
>>> level up. They will be recreated by Tbird.
>>>
>>> Restart Tbird - you may have lost some settings so reset them.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ok, doing this plus dropping down one more sub folder to news.gmane.org
>> and deleting the .msf file worked briefly. After Tbird downloaded all
>> the 240,000 plus headers it displayed both the read and unread messages.
>> But when I switched to another newsgroup and then back Tbird darkened on
>> the screen and became unresponsive. A eventually a dialog popped up
>> saying a script was misbehaving and did I want to cancel it. I cancelled
>> it and all the unread messages disappeared again.
>>
>> I want to thank you and sktsee for pointing me in the right direction.
>> Now I know how to display them I can work on the other problem.
>>
>> Thanks again to you both, Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
> what extensions are you using?

none

> the script error is a known anomaly generally caused by an extension -
> don't know if that interfered with your messages, though, but if you
> have some mail extension installed, it may.

According to a couple of links NoOp provided it maybe caused by an 
internal script timing out. I'm going to bump up the default and see 
what happens.

> you may be better off creating a new profile deom scratch and moving
> important data over piece by piece - and I don't believe that Message
> view is needed on the menu - I've not used it.
>


I think is showed up on mine after I dragged and dropped it on the toolbar.

Regards,  Jim






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