My request to ubuntu developer team

[Art Edwards]

On 11/26/2011 03:32 PM, Mike wrote:
> On 11/19/2011 05:40 PM, Pongo A. Pan wrote:
>> On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 16:08 -0600, W. Scott Lockwood III wrote:
>>> No need to fork. Use Linux Mint.
>>>
>>>
>> Art Edwards (Quoted by Lockwood):
>>>
>>> The problem for me is that I use the computer for real work. I know
>>> others
>>> do, but it's not even a little bit of a hobby for me. Gnome 2 had
>>> been an
>>> incredibly nice productivity tool. To me, Unity is big and dumb. It
>>> seems
>>> the world has fallen in love with tablet interfaces. I don't want a
>>> bunch of
>>> eye-candy on my desktop. Is there any chance that someone will fork
>>> gnome to
>>> serve the original geeks who grew up using linux?
>
> I also use linux for work and to be productive. Unity is not
> productive at all for me. As you said, Unity is big and dumb! I don't
> want my desktop computer (or my laptop for that matter) working or
> looking like a tablet. I need to get real work done in an easy and
> organized way. Unity does not do this for me, or my many customers
> that are currently using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. After demonstrating Unity
> to them, they don't like it either. They want something they are
> familiar with and comfortable with. Unity may be great for tablets,
> but imho it is LOUSY for getting real work done on a desktop or laptop.
>
>
>>
>> 2. Linux Mint is using an only slightly modified gnome-shell for its
>> main branch.  If you don't like gnome-shell, you will not like Mint 12.
>> If you hate Unity, you probably will not like gnome-shell either since
>> they aren't all that different.  I can't decide which I like better; I'm
>> productive and happy using either.
>>
>
>
> I completely disagree with this. I am currently using Linux Mint 12 RC
> on one of my laptops along with a few additional extensions. I've set
> up quite a nice, productive and usable desktop interface that
> resembles a hybrid, very similar to a vanilla Gnome 2 interface.
>
> In my opinion, Mint is headed in the right direction. Ubuntu on the
> other hand will quickly lose me, and all of my computer customers that
> need to actually get work done on a desktop (or laptop) computer once
> 10.04 LTS expires. Yes I realize I could install Gnome 3 on Ubuntu and
> set up the exact same desktop environment as in Mint 12, but why
> should I when Linux Mint is doing it for me. All I had to do was add
> an extra extension or two and I am ready to roll.
>
> I am patiently waiting for Linux Mint's next LTS version to be
> released. When it is, I'm migrating all of my customers over to Mint.
> At least Clem listens to the community and has responded accordingly.
>
>
I have crossed the Rubicon and I am now using xfce in xubuntu. I have a
desktop that is almost gnome 2 as far as I can see after 1.5 days. Most
of the gnome 2 applets can be run from the xfce panel using xfapplet, a
plugin in the ubuntu repository. The problem is only partly ubuntu.
Gnome 3 is a close relative, also big and dumb. Unless MATE is
successful in forking gnome at gnome 2, eventually mint linux will go
the way of ubuntu to a dumb default interface, so xfce might be the
default choice for serious use of computers.

Note that we are in good company with this.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/05/linus_slams_gnome_three/

You'll see that Linus Torvalds, you know, the originator of Linux, has
called gnome 3 "an unholy mess." He has also switched to xfce as well.
You'd think someone would be listening.

Art Edwards