installation doubt
Buggs Bunny
valambanam at gmail.com
Thu Nov 17 05:47:25 UTC 2011
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh at swbell.net> wrote:
I'm sure you will get replies to set up separate partitions for everything.
> Which is probably a pretty good idea actually. I usually just let the
> installer do whatever it does. Seems to work out just fine.
>
> If I'm dual booting with Windows on a machine I use Windows to partition
> off however much of the hard drive I want to give Linux. My thinking is
> that Windows knows best how to deal with making sure it's files are safe
> afterwards. Whether that's true or not, I don't know. Then when installing
> Linux I tell the installer to use whatever space I've set aside and let it
> run. As I said, it seems to work just fine for me. So far I've had very few
> issues. <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users>
>
Ah that's nice, but I don't have windows, I have in fact replaced
completely with Ubuntu LTS.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Colin Law <clanlaw at googlemail.com> wrote:
There used to be a good argument for having a separate partition for
> /home so that you could re-install a later version of Ubuntu and keep
> the home data partition. This is no longer necessary as it is
> possible during installation to tell it not to overwrite /home by
> telling it not to format the partition. I just use a single partition
> (plus swap).
>
> I have just seen Liam's point that if you want to try an alternative
> distribution then separate /home may be a good idea, which may well be
> valid if you were thinking of doing that.
Nah, at the initial stage I cannot have more distros, I guess Ubuntu LTS
would be more than sufficient. However, I just made /home a separate
partition.
===================================
linuxearth at linuxearth-desktop:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for linuxearth:
Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xfedcfedc
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 2445 19636224 83 Linux
/dev/sda2 2445 30402 224559105 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 2445 29794 219675648 83 Linux
/dev/sda6 29794 30402 4882432 82 Linux swap / Solaris
===================================
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:
*But* there are multiple drawbacks:
>
> * You can't install a different, non-Ubuntu distro that way.
> * You can't share /home between different distros in a multiboot
> arrangement that way. (E.g. it's very nice to be able to install the
> *next* version of Ubuntu for a test-run before you commit to upgrading
> your main install.)
> * You can't put /home on a bigger drive that way.
> * You can't put *just* / on a fast SSD or something.
> * If a disaster corrupts your / partition, you lose all your data as
> well. (E.g. if you tried to resize it and it went wrong.)
> * It makes it more difficult to backup just your data.
>
> And of course when reinstalling you have to trust that it will leave
> your data alone. I don't like taking chances like that if I have a
> ready alternative.
>
> I thin k the arguments for splitting off /home are very strong, myself.
>
Then I am safe I guess.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> that can get you into awkward situations where apps use different
> mechanisms for storing their settings, i really wouldnt count on
> userspace to work properly if you share home between distros (or even
> different releases of the same distro) once they excpect a certain
> setup in your home dir ...
> there are weeks of work of an ubuntu development cycle going into
> making sure that forward transitions of app settings work for users ...
>
> i.e. if the evolution folder format changes and there is a conversion in
> the background going on on first startup of the newer evo you might not
> be able to reach your mail with the older one (you could replace
> evo with firefox, libreoffice etc above) ... so be careful with shared
> home...
>
Saying very honestly, I really don't know (/understand) this... but well
only one distro right now...
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Pongo A. Pan <pongo_pan at fastmail.us> wrote:
And of course, the really geeky way to have multiple distros installed
> at once on a suitably large hard drive (or bunch of them) is to have a
> small /home for each with symlinks to the common stuff
> like /home/Documents, /home/Music and /home/.local/share/ which are
> actually on a large common /data partition somewhere.
>
> This is actually kind of fun to set up and makes it easy to evaluate/use
> several distros at once without worrying about coordinating data.
>
This would be done after some experience, but I liked learning this way, ;)
> Probably much more than the OP wants at this point though.
>
Yeah, :)
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Craig White <craigwhite at azapple.com> wrote:
separate /home is good in that you can erase everything else (like for
> an upgrade) and still keep the users documents/settings
>
I set it up.
> separate /tmp is possibly useful for a public server but these days it
> isn't done much
>
> separate /var is possibly a good idea on a public server to keep the
> main file system from filling up with runaway logging but that doesn't
> seem to happen much any more.
>
> separate /usr is a bad idea
>
> Previous justifications for partitioning were for security barriers that
> really don't exist any more so there's little reason to add the
> complexity that is potentially a problem.
>
Right now, its like:
http://postimage.org/image/vp9gi2nex/
Thanks a lot, Ubuntu really seems a good distro, I just try...THANKS....
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