Aptitude--any users!
S.Allen
marathon.durandal at gmail.com
Wed May 11 07:28:42 UTC 2011
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 09:41:28PM +0100, James Freer wrote:
> On 10 May 2011 12:49, S.Allen <marathon.durandal at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 10:48:10PM +0100, James Freer wrote:
> >
> >> After posting on here i read a long thread on aptitude on a forum
> >> [which i can't now find!]. I did some experimentation and the only
> >> conclusions i can draw are the following
> >>
> >> a] aptitude is great and more advanced in some respects but DOES NEED
> >> to be used as the only package manager for installation and removal.
> >> For the last couple of years i've used apt-get (set up in aliases to
> >> make life easy), installed through the software centre, synaptic or
> >> apt-get - but always used apt-get autoremove for removal and have to
> >> say that i didn't have any orphan packages... checked with gtkorphan.
> >>
> >> b] it would appear that apt-get development is being pursued more
> >> actively as it is the quoted one in more cases. This is most likely
> >> the reason for it being shipped on CDs.
> >>
> >> c] i've read a number of threads saying that aptitude is TOO clever by
> >> half. With a lot of updating and perhaps one update or install on
> >> apt-get or synaptic and a remove in aptitude can lead to undesirable
> >> results.
> >>
> >> I liked aptitude as 'all is in one place' but its sophistication can
> >> lead to problems which is why i think less folk use it (as well as b])
> >> and hence it being dropped in debian. My humble twopence worth
> >
> > Most of it's shite too. I've never heard any rumours that Debian is
> > dropping aptitude. Also one _can_ use apt-get, aptitude & synpatic
> > interchangeably -- I do this all the time. So most of what you've wrote
> > in the foregoing is rubbish.
> >
>
> Thanks for your sharp unnecessary response!
>
> I never claimed that debian was dropping aptitude. As for using it
> interchangeably - congratulations with your success. From what i've
> gathered over the last four years - each has their own app database so
> changing from one to the other is strongly not recommended practice.
> In Ubuntu there was a sync app... perhaps 8.04, 9.04 9.10 - but no
> longer in 10.04 which is what i use. I didn't find any problems as i
> said with apt and synaptic but look on the kubuntu forums - there are
> many people there this past year who have had problems with aptitude
> and synaptic.
>
> I do know folk who are debian developers at a LUG although i haven't
> been in contact this past year. They certainly didn't recommend
> switching between package managers because of their different
> databases.
>
> Things may have changed now. What development has taken place with
> aptitude i don't know as things there seem to be fairly quiet. You're
> fortunate you haven't had any problems.>
> james
>
James, I strongly suggest you do some elementary research before
continuing on. Pretty much all your points are false. Suggest starting
at 'debian-user'. You're just embarassing yourself on a public archived
e-mail list with misinformation.
And yeah you did suggest that Debian was dropping Aptitude. Suggest you
read the attributions above; I've included them for convenience in this
reply.
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