<OT> clouds

[chris]

On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 15:00 -0700, NoOp wrote:
> On 05/06/2011 01:54 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 06:32, Ric Moore <wayward4now at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I know this is slightly OT, but what is the experience using the Ubuntu
> >> flavor of "the cloud" or just the "cloud" in general? I'm skeptical as
> >> all heck. One of of Non-Profit team members wants to put our financial
> >> data "out there" in google. Me, I'm going oh hell no! Are any of them
> >> particularly safe? Is running your own Ubuntu "cloud" better than the
> >> other offerings? More secure? The ultimate goal is to have being able to
> >> collaborate on the books, live, at different locations connected to the
> >> net. Me, I lean towards running our own server with a static IP address,
> >> as being as secure as we can make it. Which might be better than the
> >> commercial offerings. Plus, I'm making the case for Open Source, rather
> >> than MS.
> >>
> >> I just want to pick some brains here, to guide my own thinking.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Ric
> >>
> > 
> > Go read about the recent Amazon outages. Of course, that is on par
> > with regular hosting. But the addition of water vapor-saturated air
> > does _not_ make things more secure or resilient, no matter what the
> > propaganda. Also, as with regular hosting, have local backups! A KDE
> > dev just this week had his cloud host delete his backups by mistake.
> > And I personally had g.ho.st cloud computing close shop with my data,
> > with no way for me to access it. Luckily, I had local backups.
> 
> Bows and flows of angel hair and ice cream castles in the air
> and feather canyons everywhere, I've looked at clouds that way.
> But now they only block the sun, they rain and snow on everyone.
> So many things I would have done but clouds got in my way.
> 
> I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
> from up and down, and still somehow
> it's cloud illusions I recall.
> I really don't know clouds at all.
> --- Joni Mitchell - Both Sides, Now
> 
> 
Sorry Noop, I prefer the Cleo Lane /Johnny Dankworth version
Cheers the kiwi