<OT> clouds

NoOp glgxg at sbcglobal.net
Sun May 8 22:00:57 UTC 2011


On 05/06/2011 01:54 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 06:32, Ric Moore <wayward4now at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I know this is slightly OT, but what is the experience using the Ubuntu
>> flavor of "the cloud" or just the "cloud" in general? I'm skeptical as
>> all heck. One of of Non-Profit team members wants to put our financial
>> data "out there" in google. Me, I'm going oh hell no! Are any of them
>> particularly safe? Is running your own Ubuntu "cloud" better than the
>> other offerings? More secure? The ultimate goal is to have being able to
>> collaborate on the books, live, at different locations connected to the
>> net. Me, I lean towards running our own server with a static IP address,
>> as being as secure as we can make it. Which might be better than the
>> commercial offerings. Plus, I'm making the case for Open Source, rather
>> than MS.
>>
>> I just want to pick some brains here, to guide my own thinking.
>>
>> Thanks, Ric
>>
> 
> Go read about the recent Amazon outages. Of course, that is on par
> with regular hosting. But the addition of water vapor-saturated air
> does _not_ make things more secure or resilient, no matter what the
> propaganda. Also, as with regular hosting, have local backups! A KDE
> dev just this week had his cloud host delete his backups by mistake.
> And I personally had g.ho.st cloud computing close shop with my data,
> with no way for me to access it. Luckily, I had local backups.

Bows and flows of angel hair and ice cream castles in the air
and feather canyons everywhere, I've looked at clouds that way.
But now they only block the sun, they rain and snow on everyone.
So many things I would have done but clouds got in my way.

I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
from up and down, and still somehow
it's cloud illusions I recall.
I really don't know clouds at all.
--- Joni Mitchell - Both Sides, Now





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