ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 82, Issue 157

Yamileth María Jiménez García yamibiblio at gmail.com
Wed Jun 29 01:27:34 UTC 2011


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2011/6/23 <ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com>

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>   1. Re: Natty 11.04 - nearly like 10.10! (Ric Moore)
>   2. Difference between Alt-F2 and Win-A in Unity (Alain Muls)
>   3. Re: [OT] why isn't bikeshed good enough as a sounder
>      replacement? (Alan Pope)
>   4. Re: Difference between Alt-F2 and Win-A in Unity (Guannan Ma)
>   5. vpnc disconnects on Cisco PIX rekeying (Mike McGinn)
>   6. Replacement for lock-keys-applet on Natty? (Jim Byrnes)
>   7. mailing list troubles (Curt Tresenriter)
>   8. Re: Replacement for lock-keys-applet on Natty? (Florian Diesch)
>   9. Re: mailing list troubles (Billie Walsh)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:40:07 -0400
> From: Ric Moore <wayward4now at gmail.com>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Natty 11.04 - nearly like 10.10!
> Message-ID: <1308854407.10692.39.camel at iam.wayward4now.net>
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> On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 21:53 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
> > On 23/06/11 20:09, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 15:33 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
> > >
> > >> BTW, if you want to have a few more "goodies" when running GNOME 3
> then
> > >> have a look here:
> > >>
> > >> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet
> > > Lovely link, Bas, however, 10+ years of "the same thing" is hard to
> > > break...true?
> >
> > Perhaps for those people who are inflexible in their thinking and
> > therefore have a problem with thinking outside "the square".
> >
> > I started off with KDE years ago because I simply HATED gnome, but then
> > switched over to gnome only to find it being vandalised by something
> > which calls itself Unity; so I went back to KDE (4.6) only then to find
> > that Gnome 3 was far superior to not Unity but KDE 4.6 as well.
> >
> > But I have to admit that before really discovering Gnome 3 I did think
> > that the future only lay in KDE.
> >
> > In a few months' time it may be something called ZIPPO which will have
> > no icons, menus, nothing to click on, no need for a mouse or keyboard,
> > no desktop at all in fact, nothing but a black blank screen (which will
> > stop all this crap about video card problems) and all one has to do is
> > to THINK what you want to do and....VOILA! the app. appears on your
> > screen and at exactly the place you wanted it to start.
> >
> > "That is THE FUTURE, Brother!"
>
> If someone tries to patent that, you need only point them to Ren &
> Stimpy "Space Madness" where Ren has a hose connected to his brain to
> the console. The user control-interface seems to be based on grimaces
> and insane cackling coupled to eyebrow waggle sequences. Imagine some
> buffin on an airplane doing his final draft for a presentation to the
> National Geographic Society. I guess he'd appear less crazy that someone
> trying to use Unity to achieve the same goal. :) Ric
>
>
>
> --
> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
> Linux user# 44256
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:02:04 +0200
> From: Alain Muls <alain.muls at telenet.be>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Difference between Alt-F2 and Win-A in Unity
> Message-ID: <BANLkTi=Stb5aNxvhvX8Yqcm-pztbBUnzLg at mail.gmail.com>
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> Hi All
>
> What is exactly the difference between Alt-F2 and Win-A in Unity? When
> using Win-A I cannot launch or find applications in eg $HOME/bin,
> though this is set in my $PATH variable. Using Alt-F2 the application
> is found.
>
> And how can I get the correct logo of the program I am making in the dash?
>
> Tx/ALain
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:32:28 +0100
> From: Alan Pope <alan at popey.com>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [OT] why isn't bikeshed good enough as a sounder
>        replacement?
> Message-ID: <BANLkTiktpzq1TDNw+-qYr45HaQ3L7VfSiw at mail.gmail.com>
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> On 23 June 2011 09:37, Amedee Van Gasse <amedee-ubuntu at amedee.be> wrote:
> > On Wed, June 22, 2011 20:39, Ric Moore wrote:
> >
> >> Been there, it didn't describe HOW-TO as well as Amedee did. It's damn
> >> near like a literary test at some old deep south voter registration
> >> though, when it could've been a point 'n click. Joe Lunchbucket needs to
> >> be able to register too, if we are going to dummy down the user
> >> interface ala Unity. After all, you never know from whence comes your
> >> deliverance. :) Ric
> >
>
> Plenty of people have signed the Code of Conduct. Somewhat less have
> then gone on to contribute to Ubuntu. Somewhat less have decided
> they'd like to request membership and have gone through the process of
> becoming a member. 697 or so in fact. These people are contributors to
> Ubuntu. They code, translate, do design work, triage bugs, support
> users and perform leadership roles.
>
> Basically these are people who have decided to set aside some of their
> time to work on Ubuntu.
>
> These are not what most people would consider "users" or "Joe
> Lunchbuckets", but contributors - in some way.
>
> > I agree, it's too technical for people who don't want to be involved in
> > the technical side of Ubuntu.
>
> The process for signing the Code of Conduct isn't straightforward.
> We've been told that in the past. It would be nice to have a point &
> click way to do all that, and when someone develops that I'm sure it
> will be evaluated and eventually used. Until then we have what we
> have. Some people have tried to make things easier by writing
> documentation or making tutorial videos to help people seeking to
> achieve this task..
>
> http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC
>
> > I had to create a pgp key that I will never use. I don't know how many
> PGP
> > keys I have already generated that are floating somewhere out there on
> the
> > net. Same thing with ssh keys: every time I need one, I just delete every
> > existing key on my 'puter and recreate from scratch. Key revocation?
> > That's beyond my intelligence.
> >
>
> Take some time to read up on GPG. It's not that hard to grasp. I too
> was like you, I didn't "get it" and would just generate keys when I
> needed them. However when I signed the CoC I decided to set aside a
> few minutes of my life to actually learn this stuff. I generated a
> key, signed the Code of Conduct and the key is still there. I still
> use it because I'm involved in the project. I sign my Tomboy uploads
> with it, and it's been used by other people to encrypt sensitive data
> like passwords that they need to send me. Useful stuff if you're
> involved in the project. If you're not, then no, it's not as much use.
>
> Still, it was only a few minutes of my life to do.
>
> Al.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:37:11 -0400
> From: Guannan Ma <mythmgn at gmail.com>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Difference between Alt-F2 and Win-A in Unity
> Message-ID: <BANLkTikVqTyhMpYNMMH5-3vDKru907PA2g at mail.gmail.com>
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> /usr/share/applications
> /usr/local/share/applications/
> ~/.local/share/applications/
>
> Items under the folders above will be displayed in the win-a.
>
> alt+f2 can run any commands in ur $PATH.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Alain Muls <alain.muls at telenet.be> wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > What is exactly the difference between Alt-F2 and Win-A in Unity? When
> > using Win-A I cannot launch or find applications in eg $HOME/bin,
> > though this is set in my $PATH variable. Using Alt-F2 the application
> > is found.
> >
> > And how can I get the correct logo of the program I am making in the
> dash?
> >
> > Tx/ALain
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:54:51 -0400
> From: Mike McGinn <mikemcginn at mcginnweb.net>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: vpnc disconnects on Cisco PIX rekeying
> Message-ID: <201106231554.52578.mikemcginn at mcginnweb.net>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="us-ascii"
>
> We have a problem with vpnc dropping out when the Cisco PIX firewall it is
> connected to rekeys. I have done quite a bit of searching on the web and
> this
> seems to be a problem with vpnc version 0.5.3. According to the home page
> referenced in the vpnc manual page this has not been touched since 2009.
> Does
> anybody know of a newer version anywhere that does not exhibit this
> behavior?
> I am quite comfortable building from source if that is required.
> Alternately,
> is there another open source solution for connecting to these devices. The
> latest Cisco version I could find is a pig which refuses to compile with
> the
> current kernel.
>
> Log excerpt below:
>
> daemon.log:4369:Jun 21 19:11:26 adrastea ntpd[10645]: Listening on
> interface
> #9 tun0, 10.38.9.58#123 Enabled
> daemon.log:4431:Jun 21 20:09:56 adrastea NetworkManager:
>  SCPlugin-Ifupdown:
> devices removed (path: /sys/devices/virtual/net/tun0, iface: tun0)
> daemon.log:4432:Jun 21 20:10:37 adrastea NetworkManager:
>  SCPlugin-Ifupdown:
> devices added (path: /sys/devices/virtual/net/tun0, iface: tun0)
> daemon.log:4433:Jun 21 20:10:37 adrastea NetworkManager:
>  SCPlugin-Ifupdown:
> device added (path: /sys/devices/virtual/net/tun0, iface: tun0): no
> ifupdown
> configuration found.
> daemon.log:4435:Jun 21 20:11:26 adrastea ntpd[10645]: Listening on
> interface
> #10 tun0, 10.38.9.55#123 Enabled
> daemon.log:4436:Jun 21 20:11:26 adrastea ntpd[10645]: Deleting interface #9
> tun0, 10.38.9.58#123, interface stats: received=0, sent=0, dropped=0,
> active_time=3600 secs
>
> --
> Mike McGinn             FACOCM
> Ex Uno Plurima
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> ** Registered Linux User 377849
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:40:10 -0500
> From: Jim Byrnes <jf_byrnes at comcast.net>
> To: Ubuntu Forum <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Replacement for lock-keys-applet on Natty?
> Message-ID: <4E03A4AA.9010201 at comcast.net>
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>
> I have a Lenovo notebook that has no led for Caps lock turned on.  On
> Maverick the lock-keys-applet sat up on the top panel and provided this
> service.  Is there anything like it that works on Natty?
>
> Thanks, Jim
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:29:22 -0500
> From: Curt Tresenriter <ctres at grics.net>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: mailing list troubles
> Message-ID: <4E03B032.6040305 at grics.net>
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> After the 17th I stopped receiving posts to the list after subscribing
> several weeks earlier.
> I had noticed that on occasion I would never see the original post but
> would see replies.
>
> This a.m. I unsubbed and re-subscribed to the list but still have
> received no emails.
>
> What do I need to do to straighten this out?
> Thanks
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:44:28 +0200
> From: Florian Diesch <diesch at spamfence.net>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Replacement for lock-keys-applet on Natty?
> Message-ID: <86mxh8gr43.fsf at spamfence.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain
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> Jim Byrnes <jf_byrnes at comcast.net> writes:
>
> > I have a Lenovo notebook that has no led for Caps lock turned on.  On
> > Maverick the lock-keys-applet sat up on the top panel and provided
> > this service.  Is there anything like it that works on Natty?
>
> <http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/list-of-application-indicators>
> has a nice list of indicator applets working with Unity.
>
> "Keylock Indicator" seems to do what you want.
>
>
>
>   Florian
> --
> <http://www.florian-diesch.de/>
> <http://identi.ca/diesch/>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:55:41 -0500
> From: Billie Walsh <bilwalsh at swbell.net>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: mailing list troubles
> Message-ID: <4E03B65D.5020501 at swbell.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 06/23/2011 04:29 PM, Curt Tresenriter wrote:
> > After the 17th I stopped receiving posts to the list after subscribing
> > several weeks earlier.
> > I had noticed that on occasion I would never see the original post but
> > would see replies.
> >
> > This a.m. I unsubbed and re-subscribed to the list but still have
> > received no emails.
> >
> > What do I need to do to straighten this out?
> > Thanks
> >
>
> Check your spam filters.
>
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