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Today's Topics: 1. Re: Natty 11.04 - nearly like 10.10! (Ric Moore) 2. Difference between Alt-F2 and Win-A in Unity (Alain Muls) 3. Re: [OT] why isn't bikeshed good enough as a sounder replacement? (Alan Pope) 4. Re: Difference between Alt-F2 and Win-A in Unity (Guannan Ma) 5. vpnc disconnects on Cisco PIX rekeying (Mike McGinn) 6. Replacement for lock-keys-applet on Natty? (Jim Byrnes) 7. mailing list troubles (Curt Tresenriter) 8. Re: Replacement for lock-keys-applet on Natty? (Florian Diesch) 9. Re: mailing list troubles (Billie Walsh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:40:07 -0400 From: Ric Moore <<a href="mailto:wayward4now@gmail.com">wayward4now@gmail.com</a>> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: Natty 11.04 - nearly like 10.10! Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1308854407.10692.39.camel@iam.wayward4now.net">1308854407.10692.39.camel@iam.wayward4now.net</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 21:53 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 23/06/11 20:09, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 15:33 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote: > > > >> BTW, if you want to have a few more "goodies" when running GNOME 3 then > >> have a look here: > >> > >> <a href="http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet" target="_blank">http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet</a> > > Lovely link, Bas, however, 10+ years of "the same thing" is hard to > > break...true? > > Perhaps for those people who are inflexible in their thinking and > therefore have a problem with thinking outside "the square". > > I started off with KDE years ago because I simply HATED gnome, but then > switched over to gnome only to find it being vandalised by something > which calls itself Unity; so I went back to KDE (4.6) only then to find > that Gnome 3 was far superior to not Unity but KDE 4.6 as well. > > But I have to admit that before really discovering Gnome 3 I did think > that the future only lay in KDE. > > In a few months' time it may be something called ZIPPO which will have > no icons, menus, nothing to click on, no need for a mouse or keyboard, > no desktop at all in fact, nothing but a black blank screen (which will > stop all this crap about video card problems) and all one has to do is > to THINK what you want to do and....VOILA! the app. appears on your > screen and at exactly the place you wanted it to start. > > "That is THE FUTURE, Brother!" If someone tries to patent that, you need only point them to Ren & Stimpy "Space Madness" where Ren has a hose connected to his brain to the console. The user control-interface seems to be based on grimaces and insane cackling coupled to eyebrow waggle sequences. Imagine some buffin on an airplane doing his final draft for a presentation to the National Geographic Society. I guess he'd appear less crazy that someone trying to use Unity to achieve the same goal. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:02:04 +0200 From: Alain Muls <<a href="mailto:alain.muls@telenet.be">alain.muls@telenet.be</a>> To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: Difference between Alt-F2 and Win-A in Unity Message-ID: <BANLkTi=<a href="mailto:Stb5aNxvhvX8Yqcm-pztbBUnzLg@mail.gmail.com">Stb5aNxvhvX8Yqcm-pztbBUnzLg@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi All What is exactly the difference between Alt-F2 and Win-A in Unity? When using Win-A I cannot launch or find applications in eg $HOME/bin, though this is set in my $PATH variable. Using Alt-F2 the application is found. And how can I get the correct logo of the program I am making in the dash? Tx/ALain ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:32:28 +0100 From: Alan Pope <<a href="mailto:alan@popey.com">alan@popey.com</a>> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [OT] why isn't bikeshed good enough as a sounder replacement? Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BANLkTiktpzq1TDNw%2B-qYr45HaQ3L7VfSiw@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTiktpzq1TDNw+-qYr45HaQ3L7VfSiw@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 23 June 2011 09:37, Amedee Van Gasse <<a href="mailto:amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be">amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be</a>> wrote: > On Wed, June 22, 2011 20:39, Ric Moore wrote: > >> Been there, it didn't describe HOW-TO as well as Amedee did. It's damn >> near like a literary test at some old deep south voter registration >> though, when it could've been a point 'n click. Joe Lunchbucket needs to >> be able to register too, if we are going to dummy down the user >> interface ala Unity. After all, you never know from whence comes your >> deliverance. :) Ric > Plenty of people have signed the Code of Conduct. Somewhat less have then gone on to contribute to Ubuntu. Somewhat less have decided they'd like to request membership and have gone through the process of becoming a member. 697 or so in fact. These people are contributors to Ubuntu. They code, translate, do design work, triage bugs, support users and perform leadership roles. Basically these are people who have decided to set aside some of their time to work on Ubuntu. These are not what most people would consider "users" or "Joe Lunchbuckets", but contributors - in some way. > I agree, it's too technical for people who don't want to be involved in > the technical side of Ubuntu. The process for signing the Code of Conduct isn't straightforward. We've been told that in the past. It would be nice to have a point & click way to do all that, and when someone develops that I'm sure it will be evaluated and eventually used. Until then we have what we have. Some people have tried to make things easier by writing documentation or making tutorial videos to help people seeking to achieve this task.. <a href="http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC" target="_blank">http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC</a> > I had to create a pgp key that I will never use. I don't know how many PGP > keys I have already generated that are floating somewhere out there on the > net. Same thing with ssh keys: every time I need one, I just delete every > existing key on my 'puter and recreate from scratch. Key revocation? > That's beyond my intelligence. > Take some time to read up on GPG. It's not that hard to grasp. I too was like you, I didn't "get it" and would just generate keys when I needed them. However when I signed the CoC I decided to set aside a few minutes of my life to actually learn this stuff. I generated a key, signed the Code of Conduct and the key is still there. I still use it because I'm involved in the project. I sign my Tomboy uploads with it, and it's been used by other people to encrypt sensitive data like passwords that they need to send me. Useful stuff if you're involved in the project. If you're not, then no, it's not as much use. Still, it was only a few minutes of my life to do. Al. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:37:11 -0400 From: Guannan Ma <<a href="mailto:mythmgn@gmail.com">mythmgn@gmail.com</a>> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: Difference between Alt-F2 and Win-A in Unity Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BANLkTikVqTyhMpYNMMH5-3vDKru907PA2g@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTikVqTyhMpYNMMH5-3vDKru907PA2g@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 /usr/share/applications /usr/local/share/applications/ ~/.local/share/applications/ Items under the folders above will be displayed in the win-a. alt+f2 can run any commands in ur $PATH. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Alain Muls <<a href="mailto:alain.muls@telenet.be">alain.muls@telenet.be</a>> wrote: > Hi All > > What is exactly the difference between Alt-F2 and Win-A in Unity? When > using Win-A I cannot launch or find applications in eg $HOME/bin, > though this is set in my $PATH variable. Using Alt-F2 the application > is found. > > And how can I get the correct logo of the program I am making in the dash? > > Tx/ALain > > -- > ubuntu-users mailing list > <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users</a> > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:54:51 -0400 From: Mike McGinn <<a href="mailto:mikemcginn@mcginnweb.net">mikemcginn@mcginnweb.net</a>> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: vpnc disconnects on Cisco PIX rekeying Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:201106231554.52578.mikemcginn@mcginnweb.net">201106231554.52578.mikemcginn@mcginnweb.net</a>> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" We have a problem with vpnc dropping out when the Cisco PIX firewall it is connected to rekeys. I have done quite a bit of searching on the web and this seems to be a problem with vpnc version 0.5.3. According to the home page referenced in the vpnc manual page this has not been touched since 2009. Does anybody know of a newer version anywhere that does not exhibit this behavior? I am quite comfortable building from source if that is required. Alternately, is there another open source solution for connecting to these devices. The latest Cisco version I could find is a pig which refuses to compile with the current kernel. Log excerpt below: daemon.log:4369:Jun 21 19:11:26 adrastea ntpd[10645]: Listening on interface #9 tun0, 10.38.9.58#123 Enabled daemon.log:4431:Jun 21 20:09:56 adrastea NetworkManager: SCPlugin-Ifupdown: devices removed (path: /sys/devices/virtual/net/tun0, iface: tun0) daemon.log:4432:Jun 21 20:10:37 adrastea NetworkManager: SCPlugin-Ifupdown: devices added (path: /sys/devices/virtual/net/tun0, iface: tun0) daemon.log:4433:Jun 21 20:10:37 adrastea NetworkManager: SCPlugin-Ifupdown: device added (path: /sys/devices/virtual/net/tun0, iface: tun0): no ifupdown configuration found. daemon.log:4435:Jun 21 20:11:26 adrastea ntpd[10645]: Listening on interface #10 tun0, 10.38.9.55#123 Enabled daemon.log:4436:Jun 21 20:11:26 adrastea ntpd[10645]: Deleting interface #9 tun0, 10.38.9.58#123, interface stats: received=0, sent=0, dropped=0, active_time=3600 secs -- Mike McGinn FACOCM Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message. ** Registered Linux User 377849 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:40:10 -0500 From: Jim Byrnes <<a href="mailto:jf_byrnes@comcast.net">jf_byrnes@comcast.net</a>> To: Ubuntu Forum <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Replacement for lock-keys-applet on Natty? Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4E03A4AA.9010201@comcast.net">4E03A4AA.9010201@comcast.net</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I have a Lenovo notebook that has no led for Caps lock turned on. On Maverick the lock-keys-applet sat up on the top panel and provided this service. Is there anything like it that works on Natty? Thanks, Jim ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:29:22 -0500 From: Curt Tresenriter <<a href="mailto:ctres@grics.net">ctres@grics.net</a>> To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: mailing list troubles Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4E03B032.6040305@grics.net">4E03B032.6040305@grics.net</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed After the 17th I stopped receiving posts to the list after subscribing several weeks earlier. I had noticed that on occasion I would never see the original post but would see replies. This a.m. I unsubbed and re-subscribed to the list but still have received no emails. What do I need to do to straighten this out? Thanks ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:44:28 +0200 From: Florian Diesch <<a href="mailto:diesch@spamfence.net">diesch@spamfence.net</a>> To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: Re: Replacement for lock-keys-applet on Natty? Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:86mxh8gr43.fsf@spamfence.net">86mxh8gr43.fsf@spamfence.net</a>> Content-Type: text/plain Jim Byrnes <<a href="mailto:jf_byrnes@comcast.net">jf_byrnes@comcast.net</a>> writes: > I have a Lenovo notebook that has no led for Caps lock turned on. On > Maverick the lock-keys-applet sat up on the top panel and provided > this service. Is there anything like it that works on Natty? <<a href="http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/list-of-application-indicators" target="_blank">http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/list-of-application-indicators</a>> has a nice list of indicator applets working with Unity. "Keylock Indicator" seems to do what you want. Florian -- <<a href="http://www.florian-diesch.de/" target="_blank">http://www.florian-diesch.de/</a>> <<a href="http://identi.ca/diesch/" target="_blank">http://identi.ca/diesch/</a>> ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:55:41 -0500 From: Billie Walsh <<a href="mailto:bilwalsh@swbell.net">bilwalsh@swbell.net</a>> To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: Re: mailing list troubles Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4E03B65D.5020501@swbell.net">4E03B65D.5020501@swbell.net</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 06/23/2011 04:29 PM, Curt Tresenriter wrote: > After the 17th I stopped receiving posts to the list after subscribing > several weeks earlier. > I had noticed that on occasion I would never see the original post but > would see replies. > > This a.m. I unsubbed and re-subscribed to the list but still have > received no emails. > > What do I need to do to straighten this out? > Thanks > Check your spam filters. -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." 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