Firefox Alternative

[Donald Talbert]

On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 14:50 +0200, Gilles Gravier wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> On 27/06/2011 13:06, Avi Greenbury wrote:
> > Vic Main wrote:
> >> On 11-06-27 12:50 AM, Avi Greenbury wrote:
> >>> Graham Stacy wrote:
> >>>> Opera is a decent browser. Although, I don't know if it has the same
> >>>> problem that Chrome and Firefox have.
> >>>
> >>> Nah, Opera's problem is a different one - it's non-free.
> >>>
> >> Opera is a decent browser and fast. I've yet to pay for it, I've got it
> >> on all my computers Windows and Ubuntu and don't even know how you'd
> >> "pay" if it's not free.
> >
> > Free-as-in-freedom - it's not got a permissive enough license to get
> > into the Ubuntu default install and hence can't be used to displace
> > Firefox there.
> 
> Skype isn't "free-as-in-freedom". Yet it's displaced just about anything
> I can think of in terms of voip/videooip application... and it did that
> despite the fact that the default shipping application on Windows (MSN
> Messenger) did all that... Hence Microsoft now acquiring Skype, methinks.
> 
> So not a real argument...
> 
> You may not like its non redistributability, but Opera has its
> followers, it's very present in the embedded market. In fact, every
> Nintendo DSi, DSiXL and 3DS has it. That's already a big number of
> devices. Then almost every cell phone that runs Java but doesn't have
> enough RAM to load proper web pages in the default browser benefits from
> Opera which is very useful there.
> 
> Opera is a VERY nice browser. Just one with a different model. Heck,
> even Google Chrome (not Chromium) is not open source and redistributable
> completely. Yet it is nicely on its way to take good market share
> (granted, Google is much bigger than Opera will ever be, in terms of
> company).
> 
> Gilles.
> 
> Gilles
> 

You do realize the this is a group that is working for the sake of
building a better operating system that all we want to use, not profit
from right?

It's not the "non redistributability" If there's a bug with Opera that
doesn't work well with Ubuntu, we have to wait for them to fix it. If
they abandon it, we have to look for something else. Besides Opera only
has ~2% of the market share vs Firefox ~24%... It wouldn't be wise to
switch... Maybe it has its benefits in older cell phones and a "Nintendo
DS" but Ubuntu is a Desktop / Server OS.

Open Source allows us to all contribute and helps new programmers learn
how its made so we can improve on it. if there's something you don't
like then get involved in the community and help them make it better...
This is a open source community and it's a bit odd to see someone
suggesting we drop a open source browser we work with for some other
companies product...

-- 
Donald Talbert <donaldtalbert at gmail.com>