how to remove bind?

[Nick Edwards]

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> The question that nobody seems to be asking is: why?
>
> BIND is FOSS and DNS resolution is absolutely integral to a modern
> Unix, so yes, you are indeed going to have a very *very* hard time
> removing it. There are other DNS stacks for Unix but BIND is more or
> less universal in Linux distros and FOSS Unices in general, AFAIK.
>
> As for an absence of choice - well, I found it amusing when I briefly
> tried (and quickly discarded Gentoo) that this distro, whose users
> like to think of it as the epitome of choice, did not offer me one of
> the few choices about internal plumbing that I actually wanted.
>
> A BSD-style Init.
>
> I've never liked the SysV init much myself. Slackware doesn't use a
> SysV init - it has a simpler, clear and comprehensible BSD init. Why
> doesn't Gentoo offer this? When I asked in the fora, I was mocked by
> the few who understood the question. Most did not, of course.
>
> But, no, basically, you can't remove BIND from Ubuntu. It's a core
> dependency. If you are frustrated by this lack of control, then I'm
> afraid you're using the wrong distro and you will not get on with any
> Debian derivative.
>
> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users>
>

The answer is actually yes you can, by making ubuntu think it has the deps
I received a reply from another list, unrelated to ubuntu, it seems this
list is full of trolls with nothing better to do, this is not  user
technical support list, 40 posts and none offered the below resolution

The help I got was this, and it seems to work.


---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Re: bind removal in ubuntu
From:    "Noel Butler"
Date:    Sat, June 4, 2011 7:41 pm
To:      "Aus Sys Admins"
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Gawd, WTF you using yukbuntu for, I got sick of it for the very same reason
( amongst others)
but the awesomeness of linux means you have your choices, hrmm and when
did you leave gentoo? or is this ubuntu box a requirement for a client?

anyway when i used it, to get rid of postfix I needed to install "equivs"

Amongst the myriad of packages that debian/yukbuntu break things up into
tiny pieces, you might need to make a fake package for each one it bitches
about. its been a while since I used equivs so oyu might need research it
more before doing any of this, yukbuntu does have a mailing list, though its
full of self appointed net copping chest beating trolls with only about 2 or
so people with any clue there at all, and they often miss genuine posts
because of the extremely high noise level, but anyways what you can try
is...

equivs-control <filename>
edit the control file which is filename (it needs a layout , google it sorry
as I forget the format it needs), then..
equivs-build filename
and dpkg -i filename

then IIRC you can make install your source files.'

Good luck, and, as a better resort, install a non butchering server OS, and
if you're disgruntled with gentoo, use slackware :P but if you must use a
butchering OS use RHEL you use it now as well at work dont ya?

Cheers
N
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Re: bind removal in ubuntu
From:    "Nick Edwards"
Date:    Sat, June 4, 2011 9:33 am
To:      "Aus Sys Admins"
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Urgently need to remove the butchered version of bind from ubuntu 10.04
I cant seem to do this without apt wanting to remove 50% of my system!

No wonder no place I've worked at or ran has ever used this debian rubbish.
I complain enough about RHEL, but at least I can force removal without
losing half my system.
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