how to remove bind?

Kevin O'Gorman kogorman at gmail.com
Sat Jun 4 13:16:47 UTC 2011


On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Nick Edwards <nick.z.edwards at gmail.com>wrote:

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> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Kevin O'Gorman <kogorman at gmail.com>wrote:
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>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Nick Edwards <nick.z.edwards at gmail.com>wrote:
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>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Chuck Peters <cp at ccil.org> wrote:
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>>>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Nick Edwards <nick.z.edwards at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>> > I intend to use 9.8 from source, I removed anything that had
>>>> bind/host/in it
>>>> > that was related (I am 30 yr veteran of unix so not a newbie, but i am
>>>> not
>>>> > impressed with how ubuntu breaks things up into million tiny packages
>>>> > all dependant upon critical things.
>>>>
>>>> You are probably better off using, or rebuilding, 9.8 packages in order
>>>> to meet
>>>> all the other package dependencies.  Mr Hauke Lampe has built them...
>>>> https://launchpad.net/~hauke/+archive/bind9<https://launchpad.net/%7Ehauke/+archive/bind9>
>>>>
>>>> If you don't trust this third party repository, you can grab his
>>>> source packages,
>>>> inspect them, and rebuild them.
>>>>
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>>> The thing is I want to avoid lock-in with what I use, if I want
>>> dictatorship in packages, I'd use the kids windows pc in the lounge
>>>
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>>> This would be a good time to get educated.  Anything that needs to look
>> up a name to get an IP address pretty much has to depend on parts of the DNS
>> system.  Bind may be only one way, but you definitely need at least one,
>> just to get to "google.com".  So if you deleted bind9-host or anything it
>> depends on, you just hosed your connection to the internet.
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> Wrong, it is only called bind9-host on ubuntu, and perhaps debian? I
> suggest you have very limited OS experience.
> I have used multiple OS's over the years, luckily, none of them break up
> simple packages in as many pieces.
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<sarcasm>
Gee, I must have misunderstood the intent of this list.  I thought
ubuntu-users meant this was an Ubuntu support list.  So I wasn't addressing
any other distro in detail.
</sarcasm>

I have written two (small!) operating systems from scratch (for money and in
assembly language), and done a port of another.  I've used about a dozen
other Non-Unix OSes (Pick or Forth, anyone?)

I've owned and used at home
  SYSV (non-free)
  Esix (non-free)
  Caldera
  RedHat
  Fedora
  Gentoo
  and a few others that I immediately discarded.

I've used at work:
  BSD 3
  CENTOS
  SunOS / Solaris
  amd quite a few non-*n?x systems.

To some, this list may look short.  It's enough for me.  Since I've been
doing most of my work on Gentoo and Ubuntu since around 2000, and recently
dropped Gentoo, I feel competent to remark about Ubuntu at least.
Please note that I have not commented about the breaking up of packages,
because I don't care one way or the other.

So if anyone posts on this list and I reply in a Ubuntu-centric way, please
do not draw any conclusions beyond the fact I'm trying to be helpful.

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
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