<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Nick Edwards <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nick.z.edwards@gmail.com">nick.z.edwards@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Kevin O'Gorman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kogorman@gmail.com" target="_blank">kogorman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Nick Edwards <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nick.z.edwards@gmail.com" target="_blank">nick.z.edwards@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Chuck Peters <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cp@ccil.org" target="_blank">cp@ccil.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Nick Edwards <<a href="mailto:nick.z.edwards@gmail.com" target="_blank">nick.z.edwards@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I intend to use 9.8 from source, I removed anything that had bind/host/in it<br>
> that was related (I am 30 yr veteran of unix so not a newbie, but i am not<br>
> impressed with how ubuntu breaks things up into million tiny packages<br>
> all dependant upon critical things.<br>
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</div>You are probably better off using, or rebuilding, 9.8 packages in order to meet<br>
all the other package dependencies. Mr Hauke Lampe has built them...<br>
<a href="https://launchpad.net/%7Ehauke/+archive/bind9" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~hauke/+archive/bind9</a><br>
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If you don't trust this third party repository, you can grab his<br>
source packages,<br>
inspect them, and rebuild them.<br>
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<br></blockquote></div><div><br>The thing is I want to avoid lock-in with what I use, if I want dictatorship in packages, I'd use the kids windows pc in the lounge<br> <br></div></div><br></blockquote></div></div><div>
This would be a good time to get educated. Anything that needs to look
up a name to get an IP address pretty much has to depend on parts of the
DNS system. Bind may be only one way, but you definitely need at least
one, just to get to "<a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>". So if you deleted bind9-host or anything it depends on, you just hosed your connection to the internet.<br>
<br></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br>Wrong, it is only called bind9-host on ubuntu, and perhaps debian? I suggest you have very limited OS experience.<br>I have used multiple OS's over the years, luckily, none of them break up simple packages in as many pieces.<br>
<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br><sarcasm><br>Gee, I must have misunderstood the intent of this list. I thought ubuntu-users meant this was an Ubuntu support list. So I wasn't addressing any other distro in detail.<br>
</sarcasm><br><br>I have written two (small!) operating systems from scratch (for money and in assembly language), and done a port of another. I've used about a dozen other Non-Unix OSes (Pick or Forth, anyone?)<br>
<br>I've owned and used at home<br> SYSV (non-free)<br> Esix (non-free)<br> Caldera<br> RedHat<br> Fedora<br> Gentoo<br> and a few others that I immediately discarded.<br><br>I've used at work:<br> BSD 3<br>
CENTOS<br> SunOS / Solaris<br> amd quite a few non-*n?x systems.<br><br>To some, this list may look short. It's enough for me. Since I've been doing most of my work on Gentoo and Ubuntu since around 2000, and recently dropped Gentoo, I feel competent to remark about Ubuntu at least.<br>
Please note that I have not commented about the breaking up of packages, because I don't care one way or the other.<br></div></div><br>So if anyone posts on this list and I reply in a Ubuntu-centric way, please do not draw any conclusions beyond the fact I'm trying to be helpful.<br clear="all">
<br>-- <br>Kevin O'Gorman, PhD<br><br>