ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 83, Issue 1
Yamileth María Jiménez García
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> 1. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Jordon Bedwell)
> 2. Re: gnupg (Jordon Bedwell)
> 3. Re: Deja Vu all over again! (Avi)
> 4. DHCP working, internet not, other computers on network are.
> (Duncan Clark)
> 5. Re: more on T'bird [SOLVED] (Frank McCormick)
> 6. Re: Deja Vu all over again! (Liam Proven)
> 7. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (NoOp)
> 8. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (NoOp)
> 9. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (NoOp)
> 10. Re: Best Alternative Operating System To Ubuntu? (ANDY)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:47:55 -0500
> From: Jordon Bedwell <jordon at envygeeks.com>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com, support at twitter.com,
> support at linkedin.com
> Subject: Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
> Message-ID: <4E0CFD1B.2090405 at envygeeks.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 6/30/2011 5:33 PM, NoOp wrote:
> > Unfortunately, this is not the first time that A. Jorge Garcia has had
> > this problem... Previously it was twitter spams - see:
> > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/239119
>
> *All* social networking sites do the same thing. They dive into your
> email, grab a list and then spam people. Since I've never invited my
> contacts to socialise with me on websites in mass (mostly because I
> don't trust such tools to scrap my email and contacts list for an
> internal database for more than what the tool is designed for) I have no
> true idea if they allow you to modify that spam list before they go out,
> but if they don't allow you to then that's not the users fault, that's
> the systems fault so you need to take it up with Linkedin and Twitter,
> not Calc.
>
> No, I'm not defending spam, or making up an excuse for him, I'm just
> saying it's not fair he gets the heat for a failure of another.
>
> I'm wondering if anybody has ever even attempted to contact these
> companies and ask them to start a absolute "do not email" list that
> users can report so that they don't accidentally spam mailing lists.
>
> I've forwarded this email to twitter support and linkedin support.
>
> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/244817
> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/239119
>
> Maybe Twitter and linked in and fix this for us and stop the emails to
> the list from accidentally going through by checking the list for
> certain emails.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:49:01 -0500
> From: Jordon Bedwell <jordon at envygeeks.com>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: gnupg
> Message-ID: <4E0CFD5D.10103 at envygeeks.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> On 6/30/2011 5:46 PM, Scott Davies wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Pardon me jumping in without a solution, but I spied the GPG subject and
> got
> > all excited.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend some good books (yes, I know?books are so 20th
> century,
> > but that's how I learn best), that cover GPG on Ubuntu in particular as
> well
> > as the Unixes ? I have to support some Ubuntu boxes (hooray!), as well
> as
> > Mac OS X 10.6.8 workstations.
>
> http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:50:13 +0100
> From: Avi <lists at avi.co>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Deja Vu all over again!
> Message-ID: <20110630235013.6108208a at amazing>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> compdoc wrote:
>
> > >It doesn't matter how many people say something, it doesn't make it
> > >any more true.
> >
> > Huh? Are you saying that it doesn't matter how many people hate
> > Unity, they don't actually hate it?
>
> No, he's saying that it doesn't matter how many people say unity is
> broken, the fact that many people are claiming such doesn't make
> it true.
>
> > >Millions believe in homeopathy, chiropractic, acupuncture, astrology,
> > >clairvoyance, spiritualists and so on - but they are all wrong; there
> > >is no shred of truth to any of these things. Just the placebo effect
> > >& a lot of gullible, easily-exploited people.
> >
> > Are you also saying we, the users and supporters of Ubuntu, believe in
> > voodoo and are gullible, and easily-exploited?
>
> No, that's what's known as an analogy.
>
>
> --
> Avi
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:45:52 -0700
> From: Duncan Clark <duncyc at gmail.com>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: DHCP working, internet not, other computers on network are.
> Message-ID: <BANLkTimto=qauwK0OHmTTczRTVw=_pOxNw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I'm very befuddled right now. My Ubuntu 11.04 laptop, plugged into
> the next port, on the same NETGEAR comcast-provided router, to my
> partners, Ubuntu 11.04 laptop, is working, however his suddenly today,
> is getting the DHCP config, but won't connect to the internet. Seems
> to be having trouble with DNS lookups. Have not tested if it can
> reach servers by IP yet. The only config differance I know of between
> the two laptops, is my laptop is running the pre release kernel
> version (nothing else was pulled from the pre release update server)
>
> Any ideas? I'm kind of stumped right now, because when I've
> troubleshooted network problems on Ubuntu before... It never gets
> DHCP.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:07:51 -0400
> From: Frank McCormick <beacon at videotron.ca>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: more on T'bird [SOLVED]
> Message-ID: <4E0D0FD7.6070800 at videotron.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 11-06-30 06:29 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote:
> > On 06/30/2011 05:04 PM, Frank McCormick wrote:
> >>
> >> By clicking on the https link at the bottom of my own message.I
> >> discovered the https link does work - it's apparently in the T'bird
> >> setup under attachments ?? The http link is also there, BUT doesn't work
> >> if the link is http. It does work if you change the http selection to
> >> "always ask", then when you click a link in mail, you can pick a
> >> browser!!
> >> This is really weird.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I am running Tbird 3.1.11 x86_64 edition and I have both https & http
> > set to "use Firefox". I can automatically open either one in Firefox
> > with no problems.
> >
> > I have these settings in about:config:
> >
> > network.protocol-handler.app.ftp;/home/me/firefox/firefox
> > network.protocol-handler.app.http;/home/me/firefox/firefox
> > network.protocol-handler.app.https;/home/me/firefox/firefox
> >
> > if that helps.
> >
> > Regards, Jim
> >
>
>
> The really strange thing is when I created those
> setttings , and set them to /usr/bin/firefox they did
> nothing at all. I found the suggestion to create them
> on the mozilla forum. Then I accidentally clicked
> on the https link at the bottom of some mail, and it worked, but only
> for https. I then went into T'birds preferences attachments, and saw
> it was set to run Firefox. I then added http also set to run
> Firefox and it worked. So I still don't know for sure what
> controls what in Thunderbird:)
> Can you check you T'bird preferences attachments and see what's in
> there-I am curious.
>
> I found the same thing in Firefox under preferences/applications and set
> the mailto: link to /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird and it works.
>
>
> --
> Cheers
> Frank
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 01:16:18 +0100
> From: Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Deja Vu all over again!
> Message-ID: <BANLkTimxJFof_GrGeaYDtwodeaH2rzWZOQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> On 30 June 2011 23:50, Avi <lists at avi.co> wrote:
> > compdoc wrote:
> >
> >> >It doesn't matter how many people say something, it doesn't make it
> >> >any more true.
> >>
> >> Huh? Are you saying that it doesn't matter how many people hate
> >> Unity, they don't actually hate it?
> >
> > No, he's saying that it doesn't matter how many people say unity is
> > broken, the fact that many people are claiming such doesn't make
> > it true.
> >
> >> >Millions believe in homeopathy, chiropractic, acupuncture, astrology,
> >> >clairvoyance, spiritualists and so on - but they are all wrong; there
> >> >is no shred of truth to any of these things. Just the placebo effect
> >> >& a lot of gullible, easily-exploited people.
> >>
> >> Are you also saying we, the users and supporters of Ubuntu, believe in
> >> voodoo and are gullible, and easily-exploited?
> >
> > No, that's what's known as an analogy.
>
> What Avi said!
>
>
> --
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> Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419
> AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:58:07 -0700
> From: NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
> Message-ID: <iuj630$eja$1 at dough.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 06/30/2011 03:47 PM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
> > On 6/30/2011 5:33 PM, NoOp wrote:
> >> Unfortunately, this is not the first time that A. Jorge Garcia has had
> >> this problem... Previously it was twitter spams - see:
> >> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/239119
> >
> > *All* social networking sites do the same thing. They dive into your
> > email, grab a list and then spam people. Since I've never invited my
> > contacts to socialise with me on websites in mass (mostly because I
> > don't trust such tools to scrap my email and contacts list for an
> > internal database for more than what the tool is designed for) I have no
> > true idea if they allow you to modify that spam list before they go out,
> > but if they don't allow you to then that's not the users fault, that's
> > the systems fault so you need to take it up with Linkedin and Twitter,
> > not Calc.
>
> No idea what Calc has to do with anything. Nor do I feel any need to
> take anything up with Twitter or LinkedIn. People who subscribe to those
> services need to take it up with them... I don't.
>
> If those services mine email address' lists from the user accounts, then
> that is their problem, not mine. And yes, it is the users fault. They
> signed up for it, they allowed the "social networking site" into their
> machine, and *they* are indeed responsible for the result. It is the
> same as if I am stupid enough to allow my machine to be part of a
> botnet/spamnet then I am responsible.
>
> A. Jorge Garcia should have learned from his previous Twitter spam
> experience to avoid the issue. It's not my responsibility to notify his
> social networking sites that he's foolish enough to let them into his
> machine, it's his.
>
> >
> > No, I'm not defending spam, or making up an excuse for him, I'm just
> > saying it's not fair he gets the heat for a failure of another.
> >
> > I'm wondering if anybody has ever even attempted to contact these
> > companies and ask them to start a absolute "do not email" list that
> > users can report so that they don't accidentally spam mailing lists.
>
> And why would *I* wish to do that? I didn't send the spam. Instead I'll
> just block them and fools that sign up for such services.
>
> >
> > I've forwarded this email to twitter support and linkedin support.
> >
> > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/244817
> > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/239119
> >
> > Maybe Twitter and linked in and fix this for us and stop the emails to
> > the list from accidentally going through by checking the list for
> > certain emails.
>
> Good luck with that. It's simply easier to filter/block such nonsense.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:30:00 -0700
> From: NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
> Message-ID: <iuj7up$mj6$1 at dough.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 06/30/2011 03:08 PM, Patton Echols wrote:
> ...
> > If you wre not aware, LinkedIn is like facebook for professionals.
> > Unfortunately, the website is not clear when it asks if you want to find
> > other colleagues. It asks for your email address and password (Yes, I
> > know!) and gives the impression it is going to search it's database for
> > anyone in your address book. While it may do that, it also spams
> > everyone in your name.
> >
> > You should not tar and feather the users becase they were mislead by the
> > site designers.
>
> Really? If I sign up for blowup googoo dolls and it mines my email
> addresses & sends invites to all in my email address book/lists I
> shouldn't be responsible?
>
> Perhaps we should start a thread/blog on safe browsing...
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:33:53 -0700
> From: NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
> Message-ID: <iuj862$nod$1 at dough.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 06/30/2011 05:58 PM, NoOp wrote:
> > On 06/30/2011 03:47 PM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
> >...
> >> I'm wondering if anybody has ever even attempted to contact these
> >> companies and ask them to start a absolute "do not email" list that
> >> users can report so that they don't accidentally spam mailing lists.
> >
> > And why would *I* wish to do that? I didn't send the spam. Instead I'll
> > just block them and fools that sign up for such services.
> ...
>
> Forgot to add:
>
> Applied filter "linkedin.com" to message from "A, Jorge Garcia via
> LinkedIn" <member at linkedin.com> - Invitation to connect on LinkedIn at
> 06/28/2011 08:57:30 AM deleted
>
> Works for me.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:50:55 -0600
> From: ANDY <sirald66 at gmail.com>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Best Alternative Operating System To Ubuntu?
> Message-ID: <BANLkTinVa+_44uKV7ZB-77S_QnoeAzF=UA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Alan Pope <alan at popey.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Probably easier to just read the first paragraph of each of these:-
> >
>
> The summaries were actually very helpful. Thanks
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