<OT> ubuntu bad press

Basil Chupin blchupin at iinet.net.au
Thu Aug 25 06:26:43 UTC 2011

On 25/08/11 15:02, Rashkae wrote:
> On 08/25/2011 12:40 AM, Ric Moore wrote:
>>   My peeve is that the LTS version isn't
>> getting package upgrades to some key applications. Sun Java is falling
>> way behind in release upgrades.
> You seem to misunderstand what LTS is.  Of course packages are falling 
> behind.... Unless a change is absolutely necessary to fix a 
> showstopper bug or security hole, they stay absolutely the same.  What 
> you want is an up to date release, which is rapidly released every 6 
> months.
> Oooh, I C, you don't really want an up to date desktop, but just a 
> cherry pick of of packages you want upgraded overtop a previous 
> version of everything else.... You'll have to make your own distro for 
> that I'm afraid (or more practically, become comfortable with building 
> your own packages/updates from source.)

I think that the point which you are missing is that LTS simply stands 
for Long Term Support - but it doesn't, or shouldn't, mean that you are 
stuck with old crap while necessary packages are available.

Put another way, what exactly does "Long Term Support" actually mean? 
Sounds very much like pure PR/Marketing mumbo-jumbo: "you is stuck in 
the rut, baby, while the rest of the world moves right aloooong".

Now having stated this, I am aware that the OP is one hell of an 
advocate of him being stuck on 10.04 and nuthin' is gonna shift him 
until way down the line he is sure that "things are stable". Seems that 
he has now, "Seen the Light, Oh Lord!" and wants to join the rest of the 
progressive, but misguided, world (Hi Ric!) :-D .

Nevertheless, what he stated holds true: up-to-date applications should 
NOT be made available by having to obtain them from ppa sources but 
should be made available as part of the standard upgrade process of an 
installed system.


"Oh what a tangled web we weave
When first we practice to deceive."
     Sir Walter Scott

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