Test msg!

Tero Pesonen mail at tpesonen.net
Tue Aug 9 14:27:27 UTC 2011


On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 17:26 -0400, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
> Larry wrote:
> > On 08/08/2011 03:16 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
> >> Larry wrote:
> >>> On 08/08/2011 01:37 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
> >>>> Larry wrote:
> >>>>> On 08/08/2011 08:38 AM, Alan Pope wrote:
> >>>>>> On 8 August 2011 14:30, Larry<larryesu at gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>>>>> *My Email seems to be not getting through, so this is a test msg 
> >>>>>>> again...*
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> You use gmail. It doesn't show your sent mail until someone 
> >>>>>> replies to
> >>>>>> it. It's always done this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Al.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> *Ok Al, I did not know that, since I had been using Charter.net, 
> >>>>> and now Charter will not let me send email using another ISP, 
> >>>>> something new to make things worst...Might you know of another 
> >>>>> email client that is better...???
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks Larry
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>     You can always use Thunderbird. Setup GMail (or any other 
> >>>> account), but use the Charter SMTP server for sending.
> >>>>     My employer does the same sort of thing; for security /spam 
> >>>> prevention reasons. They only allow their SMTP server be used on 
> >>>> their network. So this message I'm sending, while it's from my 
> >>>> personal email, is being sent via work's SMTP server.
> >>>>
> >>> *This has been the problem, I can not now send any email using TB via 
> >>> Charter, for it will not work, so in thinking that maybe GMAIL or 
> >>> KMAIL would be better, I have tried it, but I am not seeing any of my 
> >>> postings like I used too...
> >>>
> >>> I see what you are saying, you sent this email using your SMTP 
> >>> server, which is Charter, but like I said Charter will not let me 
> >>> send any email via another ISP...
> >>>
> >>> The one reason I can not use Charter, is because I am using someone 
> >>> elses ISP, but if they had charter I then would not have any problems...
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the reply - - Larry
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>
> >>     Ahh, I think I see the issue... You're connecting via Charter, but 
> >> don't have your own username from Charter, right? If that's the case, 
> >> then it seems you are stuck using the webmail interface from your 
> >> email provider.
> >>     You can try Yahoo mail, they don't suppress your message that you 
> >> send out to mailling lists like GMail does...
> >>
> > *No I am connecting through another ISP trying to send email to Charter...*
> > 
> 
> 	So, I think I have it backwards... You are trying to use an SMTP server 
> from one provider on another provider's network.
> 	I'm going to guess than that the same issue applies. From a security 
> standpoint, it makes sense to me that a network provider allows hosts on 
> it's network to send mail via only it's own SMTP servers. That blocks a 
> hijacked computer from setting up it's own SMTP server to flood the 
> world with SPAM.

It's a different thing to send via a thrid-party SMTP server (e.g.
Fastmail's) than to send with your own SMTP server. Blocking the former
makes no sense, And I have never heard of an ISP who would do that. 

Tero Pesonen






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