{Possible Spam} Re: 10.04? No thanks, I give up!

[Ed McGuire]

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From: "Christopher Chan" <christopher.chan at bradbury.edu.hk>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:16 AM
Subject: {Possible Spam} Re: 10.04? No thanks, I give up!


> On Wednesday, May 12, 2010 02:51 PM, Johnneylee Rollins wrote:
> > <massive snip>
> > If you want something that has no bugs and does exactly as it is
> > supposed to all the time, I present you with a calculator and a
> > pencil. The calculator is a slightly more sophisticated pencil, and
> > occasionally has bugs.
> >
> > Although, if you're really demanding all that from a open source
> > community, I'd like to ask, what have you done for the community? As
> > for you and yours, feel free to move them from one distro to another.
> > I'd suggest you spend a bit more time with a distro before pulling
> > people around you with your whims. Just remember, these people aren't
> > paid to give you what they give, well some are, but then again it's a
> > few. If you demand excellence, feel free to make it yourself.
> >
> > In short, less QQ, more pew pew.
> >
> 
> I think you are missing the point.
> 
> Like I said in another post: "If Canonical wants any of my money, they 
> have to first show that they can deliver a certain level of service and 
> just not doing basic testing throws plenty of doubt on whether they can 
> deliver at all. I don't care how part of Ubuntu is maintained/developed 
> by the 'community' I am not going for that sort of 'service'. If I was, 
> I'd be using Debian."
> 
> and this one here:
> 
> "> The other thing that is bugging the ^&*(*&^ out of my client base is
>  > > that fact that Ubuntu dropped support for dial up.
>  > > A significant number of my clients use dial up.
> Yet another case of community and 'community'."
> 
> Just who do you think should be 'calling the shots' here? The 
> contributors/developers because oh they are the ones who do the actual 
> work? If that is the case, I hope Canonical loves being at the mercy of 
> this lot when they try to use Ubuntu as the foundation on which they 
> make money.
> 
> I thought the entire premise of Ubuntu was to make something better than 
> Debian? And it does deliver in certain areas on that score. But sticking 
> in what appears to be untried stuff or not even doing basic testing in 
> an LTS release? How are companies contemplating supporting a Linux 
> distribution or two supposed to want to choose Ubuntu? Developers of 
> Ubuntu better start getting used to thinking of users of Ubuntu as 
> customers and take things up a level. I frankly do not care what you 
> think I should be doing code wise. A community of pure developers is 
> bound to head into disaster. If you cannot be bothered to want to 
> include users who do squat code-wise and listen to what they need, 
> forget about any commercial hopes of the biggest benefactor to Ubuntu - 
> Canonical.



    Nicely Put
    Ed
    Im waiting for Ubuntu  (Vista)  LOL