10.04? No thanks, I give up!

Christopher Chan christopher.chan at bradbury.edu.hk
Wed May 12 07:16:27 UTC 2010


On Wednesday, May 12, 2010 02:51 PM, Johnneylee Rollins wrote:
> <massive snip>
> If you want something that has no bugs and does exactly as it is
> supposed to all the time, I present you with a calculator and a
> pencil. The calculator is a slightly more sophisticated pencil, and
> occasionally has bugs.
>
> Although, if you're really demanding all that from a open source
> community, I'd like to ask, what have you done for the community? As
> for you and yours, feel free to move them from one distro to another.
> I'd suggest you spend a bit more time with a distro before pulling
> people around you with your whims. Just remember, these people aren't
> paid to give you what they give, well some are, but then again it's a
> few. If you demand excellence, feel free to make it yourself.
>
> In short, less QQ, more pew pew.
>

I think you are missing the point.

Like I said in another post: "If Canonical wants any of my money, they 
have to first show that they can deliver a certain level of service and 
just not doing basic testing throws plenty of doubt on whether they can 
deliver at all. I don't care how part of Ubuntu is maintained/developed 
by the 'community' I am not going for that sort of 'service'. If I was, 
I'd be using Debian."

and this one here:

"> The other thing that is bugging the ^&*(*&^ out of my client base is
 > > that fact that Ubuntu dropped support for dial up.
 > > A significant number of my clients use dial up.
Yet another case of community and 'community'."

Just who do you think should be 'calling the shots' here? The 
contributors/developers because oh they are the ones who do the actual 
work? If that is the case, I hope Canonical loves being at the mercy of 
this lot when they try to use Ubuntu as the foundation on which they 
make money.

I thought the entire premise of Ubuntu was to make something better than 
Debian? And it does deliver in certain areas on that score. But sticking 
in what appears to be untried stuff or not even doing basic testing in 
an LTS release? How are companies contemplating supporting a Linux 
distribution or two supposed to want to choose Ubuntu? Developers of 
Ubuntu better start getting used to thinking of users of Ubuntu as 
customers and take things up a level. I frankly do not care what you 
think I should be doing code wise. A community of pure developers is 
bound to head into disaster. If you cannot be bothered to want to 
include users who do squat code-wise and listen to what they need, 
forget about any commercial hopes of the biggest benefactor to Ubuntu - 
Canonical.




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