10.04? No thanks, I give up!

[Chan Chung Hang Christopher]

Karl Larsen wrote:
> On 05/11/2010 05:20 AM, Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
>>    
>>> I take issue though with the Ubuntu model for LTS. It makes people
>>> think that a release is OK as soon as it is published when in fact it
>>> is only slightly less buggy, if at all, than Ubuntu's non-LTS
>>> releases. I am at the moment in a permanent fight with my clients to
>>> convince them to wait for 10.04.1 before I upgrade their servers. I
>>> upgraded the boxes of a new client immediately after the release
>>> because I would have lost/not gained him had I kept on saying "wait"
>>> but it was a silly risk. Thankfully, they are running OK, probably
>>> because the unstable stuff is generally pulled in by the desktop
>>> tasksels or other desktop-related apps.
>>>
>>>      
>> +1
>>
>> That LTS badge is meaningless if it just means we shall ensure security
>> fixes for the next x years.
>>
>>    
>          The base problem is promising a fancy new Ubuntu Linux every 6 
> months. This almost is a certain problem for people like you with 
> customers who hear about 10.04 and want it right NOW :-)
> 

/rant mode on
No, the basic problem is the current development model. The reliance on 
others for validation of packages is just not on. The reliance on others 
reporting obscure/special case bugs is fine but doing a release without 
the most basic of testing is just bad for your image. If Canonical wants 
any of my money, they have to first show that they can deliver a certain 
level of service and just not doing basic testing throws plenty of doubt 
on whether they can deliver at all. I don't care how part of Ubuntu is 
maintained/developed by the 'community' I am not going for that sort of 
'service'. If I was, I'd be using Debian.

Fedora is an example of a failure at a community driven distribution. 
Redhat had to hire people to get involved in Fedora after the Fedora 
9/Fedora 10 fiasco. Any distribution that is the playing ground for its 
contributors/developers is just going to go boom! like Fedora 9 did.

Look at Kubuntu. A big disastrous experiment. It is much better now but 
you still do not have stuff that was available in KDE 3.5. The latest 
Debian release is looking good on that score.
/rant mode off

I don't have customers. I have 'customers' aka users. I'm not making 
myself a dart board.