Tolerance for "all"?

ABSDoug absdoug at
Thu Jun 3 04:36:09 UTC 2010

--- On Thu, 6/3/10, J <dreadpiratejeff at> wrote:
> I find a bit of irony in that you are complaining of
> intolerance,
> attempting to qualify tolerance by claiming that NYC is the
> most
> tolerant place in the world (or at least has REAL
> tolerance), followed
> up immediately by saying that you chose to leave NYC
> because you
> couldn't tolerate drug addicts or worse.

No I couldn't tolerate the intolerance to the right of self defense in NYC. But that's another story. I find it ironic that you have to chime in complaining about an off topic issue by doing what you complain of. 

> This is the Ubuntu users list for technical support. 
> It is NOT NYC,
> it's not the subway, and you aren't going to get shot for
> looking at
> someone the wrong way 

You missed my point, but then you are reacting rather than participating.

>(by they way, is THAT an example of
> REAL  tolerance as you put it?)

Yeah, that is the kind of tolerance where YOU have to put up with something you don't agree with, something you are obviously unwilling to do. Your way or else.

> There are certain rules, both written and unwritten
> here.

I read the rules. The people complaining are CERTAINLY not getting the unwritten part, after reading, I can assure you: you don't get it. Unless of course, the words don't mean what they say.

> And they
> stem from the Ubuntu Code of Conduct.  I suggest you
> read it:
> But let me quote the relevant part here:
> "Be respectful. The Ubuntu community and its members treat
> one another
> with respect. Everyone can make a valuable contribution to
> Ubuntu. We
> may not always agree, but disagreement is no excuse for
> poor behaviour
> and poor manners. We might all experience some frustration
> now and
> then, but we cannot allow that frustration to turn into a
> personal
> attack. It's important to remember that a community where
> people feel
> uncomfortable or threatened is not a productive one. We
> expect members
> of the Ubuntu community to be respectful when dealing with
> other
> contributors as well as with people outside the Ubuntu
> project and
> with users of Ubuntu."

By YOUR definition. You know top posting, saying a word that has passed EVERY person's lips here. It doesn't ACTUALLY say that, but that won't stop you, will it?

> This discussion has gone on long enough.  It's
> completely off topic,
> and really is a non-event in any case.  Language such
> as that, which
> may be perfectly acceptable in common speech in NYC is not
> perfectly
> acceptable in many other parts of the world, and this is a
> global
> community with members from all walks of life, all
> backgrounds,
> nationalities, beliefs etc.

In many parts of the world? You want to pit NYC & salty words (& dreaded top posting) against 3rd world nations who don't even allow women to drive cars? Or jail or kill homosexuals? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? 

> Were it up to me, you'd be moderated after this post, but
> alas it's
> not.  So the next best thing I can do is add you to my
> kill file.
> Cheers,

Pathetic. His version of tolerance is to include the world standard... minus NYC. It's laughable.


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