Windows Rant

Rei Shinozuka shino at
Mon Jul 12 00:54:21 UTC 2010

On 07/11/2010 06:36 PM, C de-Avillez wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:22:08 +1200
> chris<chevhq at>  wrote:
>> late 60's, we were putting together breadboard circuits and writing
>> our own operating systems. It was an occasion for a beer if we got
>> anything to boot.
>> I remember in 1960, the first mainframe coming in NZ, for the
>> government.  An early IBM second hand.  Can't remember the specks now,
>> but I think my first Sanyo AT had more main memory.
>> One of my mates went to the States to learn to programme for it.  A
>> quite difficult version of unix, but I could be wrong about that.
>> Seem to recall, it wasn't long after that that Fortran and Cobol
>> started to appear.
> It ran OS/360 (no /360 or /370 ever ran UNIX, AFAICR);
Amhahl UTS ran on 370 systems.  I used it as a graduate student at 
Columbia in 1983 or thereabouts, they were running it on an IBM 4341 as 
a guest OS under VM.  Columbia had been a big TOPS-20 shop until the 
early 80s when the CS department took delivery of 4 or 5 VAX 750s 
running BSD.  Welcome to the 80s!

About UTS:

      UTS: Amdahl Unix

In the 1970's, AT&T Labs had ported a version of Unix to run on S/370 
(using some parts of TSS) but it had never been released outside the 
labs. In the late 1970's, a graduate student had ported Unix to run on 
VM/370. He had expressed an interest in continuing the work at IBM, but 
because of political arguments between different IBM divisions, he never 
got an offer, and went to Amdahl instead. In May 1981, Amdahl released 
UTS, a full Unix system that ran under VM.


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