Mozilla apps installed outside of the repository
Jim Byrnes
jf_byrnes at comcast.net
Mon Jan 25 19:18:32 UTC 2010
NoOp wrote:
> On 01/24/2010 06:24 AM, Jim Byrnes wrote:
>> NoOp wrote:
>>> On 01/24/2010 04:49 AM, Jim Byrnes wrote:
>>>> NoOp,
>>>>
>>>> I read one of your posts where you mentioned that all your Mozilla apps
>>>> were installed outside of the repository system.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering if you uninstalled the version of Firefox put there by
>>>> the Ubuntu install?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Jim
>>>>
>>> Nah. I leave it in place, primarily for several reasons: 1) to test the
>>> Ubuntu version, 2) to use the plugin links when necessary.
>>>
>>> I seldom use Fx at all as I use the mozilla version of SeaMonkey[1],
>>> except for testing, but when I do I use the mozilla version. Ditto for
>>> Thunderbird:
>>>
>>> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100115 Firefox/3.6
>>>
>>> My Ubuntu version on this system is:
>>> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100106
>>> Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Firefox/3.5.7
>>>
>>> With the mozilla version I get regular update notices, can use
>>> 'Help|Check for Updates' etc, properly. Using the mozilla versions
>>> allows me to run the applications from my home folder(s); meaning that
>>> no root/superuser privilages are required (no installs to
>>> /usr/whatever). IMO it is silly to give a browser access to root folders
>>> et al. Fx, SeaMonkey, Thunderbird, etc., all run just fine from the
>>> users /home folder - just extract and run. Additionally, you don't need
>>> to worry about the Ubuntu calling home[2].
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8pre)
>>> Gecko/20100123 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.3pre
>>>
>>> [2]
>>> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/08/07/1521208/Ubuntus-New-Firefox-Is-Watching-You?from=rss
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/402767
>>> [multisearch CSE breaks l18n+setfocus+images+cached+I'm feeling lucky
>>> functionality and "violates user trust"] Note: old but broke my trust
>>> w/Ubuntu's versions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> OK, thanks. I'm new to Ubuntu and have a lot to learn and sometimes
>> find myself being a little to cautious. I just need to remaind myself
>> that I don't have anything important on it yet so if I really mess it up
>> I can just reinstall with nothing hurt but a little lost time.
>>
>> Regares, Jim
>>
>
> For the time being, I'd just stick with what you get from the repos.
> However, if you'd like to test just download Fx and install to a home
> folder & run from there. It won't disturb your exisiting Ubuntu version.
>
> 1. Download Fx from: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html
> 2. Open Nautilus (Places|Home Folder) and navigate to where you
> downloaded the file. Right click the firefox-3.6.tar.bz2 file and click
> 'extract here'. That will create a new folder called 'firefox'.
> 2. Use nautilus to navigate to the new 'firefox' folder & double-click
> the 'firefox' file. A window will open up asking if you wish to 'Run in
> Terminal|Display|Cancel|Run'. Click 'Run'. Fx 3.6 will open up and use
> your existing /home/<username/.mozilla settings. The opening page will
> go to:
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6/whatsnew/
> but that's normal on a first run. Click your home icon & you'll see your
> normal home page.
>
> If you decide you want to keep running Fx from that location, post back
> & I'll advise on how you can set an 'Applications|Internet' menu etc. If
> you decide that you don't want to continue using Fx from that location
> you can simply delete the new firefox folder and the firefox-3.6.tar.bz2
> file.
>
> Gary
>
Ok thanks, I actually have added FF 3.6 to the applicatins menu on my
test system. The only thing I haven't yet figured out is how to get the
FF icon to show on the menu.
I just discovered that the java plugin in is not loaded on FF 3.6.
Searching a bit indicates I need a symbolic link to get it recognized.
Still trying to figure that one out.
Regards, Jim
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