RFC, submission: ubuntu technical moderated list

Cybe R. Wizard cyber_wizard at mindspring.com
Fri Feb 5 06:31:34 UTC 2010

On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:04:07 +0800
Christopher Chan <christopher.chan at bradbury.edu.hk> wrote:

> What I find most amusing is why would you even want a mailing list
> that is ONLY technical support for an operating system. This issue of
> people wanting to talk about Ubuntu has come up so often I believe
> that others who run mailing lists with the rule - ontopic = distro
> related - have got it right.
> Which, incidentally, is also how most open source software related
> lists are run.

A good example is the debian user list:
debian-user at lists.debian.org

If there are rules it doesn't  show but the list is friendly and mainly
on-topic.  It doesn't want nor need net nannies nor moderators.
Everyone  tolerates off-topic with some disdain but mostly stay
on-topic.  Rants occur as do disagreements but aren't resulting in
constant bickering back and forth by anyone thinking the list should be
more tolerant and friendly and so being intolerant and unfriendly about
it like we constantly see here.
Really, for a distro that claims to be ubuntu, where is the humanity?
What ever happened to, "live and let live?"
Why all the power trips?

BTW, the debian-user list has its own CoC.
this is it:
Code of conduct

When using the Debian mailing lists, please follow these rules:

    * Do not send spam; see the advertising policy below.
    * Send all of your e-mails in English. Only use other languages on
      mailing lists where that is explicitly allowed (e.g. French on
    * Make sure that you are using the proper list. In particular,
      don't send user-related questions to developer-related mailing
    * Wrap your lines at 80 characters or less for ordinary discussion.
      Lines longer than 80 characters are acceptable for
      computer-generated output (e.g., ls -l).
    * Do not send automated "out-of-office" or "vacation" messages.
    * Do not send "test" messages to determine whether your mail client
      is working.
    * Do not send subscription or unsubscription requests to the list
      address itself; use the respective -request address instead.
    * Never send your messages in HTML; use plain text instead.
    * Avoid sending large attachments.
    * Do not quote messages that were sent to you by other people in
      private mail, unless agreed beforehand.
    * When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a
      carbon copy (CC) to the original poster unless they explicitly
      request to be copied.
    * If you want to complain to someone who sent you a carbon copy
      when you did not ask for it, do it privately.
    * If you send messages to lists to which you are not subscribed,
      always note that fact in the body of your message.
    * Do not use foul language; besides, some people receive the lists
      via packet radio, where swearing is illegal.
    * Try not to flame; it is not polite.
    * Use common sense all the time.

Personally, I think this list could use the very same CoC
(changing,"debian," to, "Ubuntu," of course) and do much better thereby.

Cybe R. Wizard
When Windows are opened the bugs come in.

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