Is it just me, or is there a reason for it?

Tom H tomh0665 at
Thu Aug 12 17:33:22 UTC 2010

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, R Kimber <richardkimber at> wrote:
> The level of logging seems to me to be far in excess of what the ordinary
> user needs.  I can understand that a developer might need:-
> Aug 12 16:37:41 infinity udevd[494]: BUS= will be removed in a future udev
> version, please use SUBSYSTEM= to match the event device, or SUBSYSTEMS= to
> match a parent device, in /lib/udev/rules.d/52-nut-usbups.rules:6 Aug 12
> 16:38:33 infinity udevd[494]: last message repeated 3 times
> Maybe someone, somewhere, needs:-
> Aug 12 07:51:32 infinity texpire[31193]: texpire 1.11.7: use_atime is 1,
> verbosity level 0, debugmode 0
> or
> Aug 11 15:23:09 infinity kernel: [535510.617659] type=1503
> audit(1281536589.896:95):  operation="open" pid=12141 parent=1
> profile="/usr/bin/evince" requested_mask="r::" denied_mask="r::" fsuid=1000
> ouid=1000 name="/media/zip/rwanda.doc"

I don't think that an "ordinary user" looks at log files.

Furthermore, if for some silly reason, Ubuntu developers decided to
make logs less verbose, imagine the "fun" in getting someone to enable
verbose logging in order to give this list, for example, enough
information to help that person.

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