ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 68, Issue 312

Fri Apr 30 06:45:41 UTC 2010

Hi, I just Dloaded Ubuntu  yesterday and installed it. 
Really like it and I think computing would be never the same again.
But today I see the site and  it changes to  UBUNTO 10.4..

My Question is ...

Do i need to Dload again (Ubuntu 10.4) and run installation again? Or just an upgrade will do? How?
Any recommended book or site? I want to embark on this IDEA "Ubuntu".

Thanks a lot.
I'm a novice MS user and Linux Newbie.

harold

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS released (Cybe R. Wizard)
  2. Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS released (Pastor JW)
  3. Re: problem with nautilus (Gary Kirkpatrick)
  4. Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS released (Cybe R. Wizard)
  5. Re: HP PhotoSmart E337 (Ray Parrish)
  6. Re: 10.04 rc update problems (Kjetil Halvorsen)
  7. Re: grub sees 2 out of 3 systems...lucky me (Goh Lip)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:29:59 -0500
From: "Cybe R. Wizard" <cyber_wizard at mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS released
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:03:33 -0400
Tom H <tomh0665 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:05 PM, ms <devicerandom at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 29/04/10 19:59, Nikolai K. Bochev wrote:
> >>
[update-manager, apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, dpkg, dselect, ...]

For me the update manager (gasp!) has been my friend through as many
updates as it has been around.  Before that it was synaptic.
What can I say, I'm a gooey guy.
My current installation of 10.04 started as Warty Warthog, 4.10.  I
think I've used all the .deb handleers (well, not dselect and not much
dpkg).
I only recently upgraded to 10.04 RC and then to the new version today.

The command <sudo update-manager -d> kicks some serious.. dust up
behind it.

Yep, it only does what apt-get already does but it's, "User-Friendly!"

That's important since Ubu can't yet catch on to the psychology of
colors.  M$ is where it is partly because light blue instills trust and
loyalty in the 'hooman' mind.

Cybe R. Wizard -...just sayin'. I hate the fact, too
-- 
When Windows are opened the bugs come in.
    Winduhs

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:32:17 -0700
From: Pastor JW <pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org>
Subject: Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS released
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On Thursday 29 April 2010 1:26:38 pm Ioannis Vranos wrote:
> Myself would go with a clean install (I prefer clean installs than
> upgrades).

Clean installs are way too windoze for me, I want a distro which can 
flawlessly upgrade and update itself without having to delete and reinstall 
all the time.  

-- 
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http://the-inner-circle.org  _Registered Kubuntu User: #27403
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:33:37 -0500
From: Gary Kirkpatrick <pegngaryubuntu at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: problem with nautilus
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closing down for the night.

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:49:51 -0500
From: "Cybe R. Wizard" <cyber_wizard at mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS released
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:32:17 -0700
Pastor JW <pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org> wrote:

> Clean installs are way too windoze for me, I want a distro which can 
> flawlessly upgrade and update itself without having to delete and
> reinstall all the time.  

Although not a believer in a deity (sorry, Pastor) I'd still like to
give your sentiment a hardy, "Amen!"

I must say that the upgrade to 10.04 has been the most flawless of all
that I have done.  So  far I have noticed absolutely no problems
although (sad to say) some people are having some slight troubles.
I'm /almost/ willing to bet on a small number of complaints/troubles
here in the days and weeks to come.  We might all have to move over to
Sounder. for a while until the next experimental version.
(wazzit, the Marauding Macaque ?)

This next bit is decidedly OT, not PC nor related to PCs and quite
likely to be offensive to some so, if thin-skinned, 

PLEASE LOOK AWAY NOW!:

I had been hoping for 10.04 to be, "Lascivious Ladies," since I know
some of them to be real animals but then remembered that none are
stable.

Cybe R. Wizard -...prolly gonna be moderated outa here...
-- 
When Windows are opened the bugs come in.
    Winduhs

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 20:14:09 -0700
From: Ray Parrish <crp at cmc.net>
Subject: Re: HP PhotoSmart E337
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NoOp wrote:
> On 04/28/2010 07:21 PM, Ray Parrish wrote:
> ...
>  
>> Apr 28 18:26:07 RaysComputer kernel: [ 9564.731699] scsi 5:0:0:0: [sdf] 
>> READ CAPACITY failed
>> Apr 28 18:26:07 RaysComputer kernel: [ 9564.731701] scsi 5:0:0:0: [sdf] 
>> Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK,SUGGEST_OK
>> Apr 28 18:26:07 RaysComputer kernel: [ 9564.731704] scsi 5:0:0:0: [sdf] 
>> Sense not available.
>> Apr 28 18:26:07 RaysComputer kernel: [ 9564.731708] scsi 5:0:0:0: [sdf] 
>> Write Protect is off
>>
>> So, evidently it's not reading the capacity of the scsi disk in the 
>> camera, and that is causing the failure. I'm not sure how one would go 
>> about fixing that problem. Any suggestions?
>>
>> Later, Ray Parrish
>>
>>    
>
> Maybe this is a clue; from your previous:
>  
>> I just did an lsusb, and got the following results -
>>
>> ray at RaysComputer:~/Videos$ lsusb
>> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 
>> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 03f0:4002 Hewlett-Packard PhotoSmart 720 / 
>> PhotoSmart 935 (storage)
>> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 058f:9360 Alcor Micro Corp. 8-in-1 Media Card Reader
>> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c045 Logitech, Inc.
>> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0c45:612e Microdia
>> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
>>    
>
> Went searching for:
> <https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=PhotoSmart+camera+%2B"READ+CAPACITY+failed"&field.actions.search=Search>
>
> And stumbled across this bug mentioning Alcor chipsets:
> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88746?comments=all>
> <quote>
> A disproportionate number of individuals report Alcor chipsets in the
> problematic behavior. See:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88746/comments/62
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88746/comments/119
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88746/comments/299
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88746/comments/397
> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=ehci_hcd
>
> Noted Workarounds:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88746/comments/372
> </quote>
>
> Not sure if it's related, but maybe try it with the Alcor removed? And
> no, I didn't go through all 589 comments - just the first few :-)
>  
Thanks for running the search for me. I've been reading the links from 
the results of that search, and so far most of them are talking about 
slow speeds when using USB.

I think I'm going to go ahead and register my own bug report with 
Launchpad, and see if I can get any results that way, as this so far is 
specific only to this camera, with all other USB devices working no 
problem on my system.

Later, Ray Parrish

-- 
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things, including my poetry.
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:33:59 -0400
From: Kjetil Halvorsen <kjetil1001 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 10.04 rc update problems
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On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 22:36, NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> On 04/27/2010 06:20 PM, Kjetil Halvorsen wrote:
> > Update:  I tried the latest ideas, by remouving  nouveau. no effect, the
> > same symptoms as before:
> > the boot seems to go well, the violet screen appears, and I am asked to
> log
> > in and give password. The mouse and everything functions. But then, the
> > desktop do not appear, and I am left with something which effectively is
> a
> > text shell . the screen continues violet, except for the shell.
>
> Kjetil, for the
> under update:  "could not resolve mirror.gnucv.cl"
> change the /etc/apt/sources.list when you get dumped back into the
> terminal from gdm (gnome displya manager - login screen) to
> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
> from
> http://mirror.gnucv.cl/ubuntu
> and try again. You can do this from the terminal, although it's a bit
> tedious:
>
> $ sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
>
> Then:
>
> $ sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get update
> $ sudo apt-get install -f
> $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
> $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
> $ sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
> $ sudo reboot
>
> I did this (took an awfull lot of time!), and it worked.  Functions
brillinnt now.
I only detected one problem with this new Ubuntu so far:

  emacs is awful!

will make a separate letter about that.

Kjetil

> As for the symptom you are showing:
> - can get gdm screen,
> - can select username,
> - can enter password,
> - get dumped to a console screen.
>
> When you get dumped to the console screen, are you already logged in, or
> are you prompted for a username/password?
> This still sounds like a graphics driver problem. Can you please:
>
> 1. Advise as to what type of graphics card you are using? Again, in the
> terminal:
>
> $ sudo lshw > lshwkjetil.txt
> $ cat lshwkjetil.txt | more
>
> You're looking for the *-display section. Example:
> *-display
>  description: VGA compatible controller
>  product: NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL]
>  vendor: nVidia Corporation
>
> 2. Check your error/log files for anything obvious:
>
> $ cat ~/.xsession-errors | more
> [Note: you may see alot of errors there; the trick is to try to sort out
> what might be applicable to your problem]
>
> $ dmesg | more
> [Note: using the spacebar w/'more' command will page up. I'm
> recommending these assuming that you have no desktop at all, so if you
> can get to a desktop and then view/modify using gedit etc., forgive me]
>
> Easier for the last might be:
>
> $ dmesg | tail
>
> but you'd need to use that one immediately after getting dumped to the
> console.
>
> Sorry, that's all I can think of now. Hopefully someone else from the
> list will jump in with additional suggestions.
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:57:05 +0800
From: Goh Lip <g.lip at gmx.com>
Subject: Re: grub sees 2 out of 3 systems...lucky me
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On 04/30/2010 09:52 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2010, Goh Lip wrote:
>
>> On 04/30/2010 05:47 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
>>>
>>> Note the absence of "/boot" in the kernel line.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, but why? Is (hd0,5) the /boot partition and separate from the /
>> partition? And the UUID refers to /boot partition and not the / partition?
>>
>> If there is no separate /boot partition, the /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.xxx and
>> /boot/initrd.img should be there.
>
> Yes, it's my usual practice to use separate partitions for /, /boot, and
> /home. The UUID refers to the / partition.

*IMPORTANT*
Bob, please check...
the UUID should be for the /boot partition

  It's the same for the other
> two distros on the computer. The other two boot OK. This one hangs with
> (initramfs_). The / partitions have links to the files on the /boot
> partition and was set up that way by the install program.
>
> A lightbulb just went on. I need to check if those links exist on 9.04.
> I'll get back.
>

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