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>   1. Re: (Basil Chupin)
>   2. Re: DNS & Firefox fails on Linux, WindIE works only on older
>      windows 	OS, ex not Vista (Hal Burgiss)
>   3. Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 10.4 LTS RC (Dotan Cohen)
>   4. Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 10.4 LTS RC (Xenon)
>   5. Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 10.4 LTS RC (Basil Chupin)
>   6. Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 10.4 LTS RC (NoOp)
>   7. Re: UPDATE BIOS 2.6.3 (hensandpat at earthlink.net)
>   8. Re: Need email server aid (Alvin Thompson)
>   9. Music CDs and Metadats (zongo saiba)
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>On 25/04/10 23:54, Hal Burgiss wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Milan Fachlany<milanfachlany at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>    
>>> Hi,,
>>> I'm new in this mailing list,, can you tell me how to participate..??
>>>      
>> Start by including a relevant Subject line in your email.
>>    
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>
>And read the following.....
>
>http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct
>
>BC
>
>-- 
>"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."
>                                                                     Galileo Galilei
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>On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 1:07 AM, giovanni_re <john_re at fastmail.us> wrote:
>> I'm trying to get a Linux (KUbuntu) laptop with Firefox working on a network, INet supplied probably by ATT (The USA national phone company) DSL. It has a router/gateway, maybe including a firewall, about 3-6 yrs in place, which I can't physically access.
>>
>> Under Linux, it gets an IP assigned (either automatically, or with dhclient? ifup eth0?), but dig & nslookup fail. Can ping the gateway. Ping offsite IP = untried.  Firefox fails to bring up web pages, IIRC because unable to look up host name.
>
>1. Don't use FF for network diagnostics. It can't do them. All this
>tells you is something isn't working right.
>
>2. If you have a legit looking IP address (and not something like
>169.254.0.0), then possibly all is well except DNS configuration. This
>can be tested by pinging an external IP address:
>
>  ping -n -c1 8.8.8.8
>
>If that succeeds, you should be able to solve it by manually setting a
>nameserver:
>
>  sudo echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" >>  /etc/resolv.conf
>
>(this is google's open nameserver).
>
>OTHO, if that ping did not work, and you have a legit IP, then you
>might have a routing table problem. That can be examined with:
>
>  route -n
>
>Should look something like:
>
>
>Kernel IP routing table
>Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
>10.0.0.0        0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
>169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     1000   0        0 eth0
>0.0.0.0         10.0.0.2        0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
>
>The last line there is the "default" route, which is critical and
>should correspond to the router's internal IP. If the IP you have
>(shown with ifconfig) is on the same subnet, and the routing table is
>fubar, you can manually set it using the 'route' command (see man page
>for default route command).
>
>Other useful commands:
>
> arp -a
> sudo traceroute -n 8.8.8.8
>
>Also, some early DSL implementations required the client system to
>have a working PPPoE client installed. This can be done on Ubuntu, but
>surely is off by default. I wouldn't worry about this, unless all else
>fails.
>
>If you have nmap installed (or have the ability to install it), you
>can see what ports are open. DCHP server is port 67 UDP:
>
>$ nmap 10.0.0.2 -p67 -sU
>
>Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2010-04-25 10:33 EDT
>Interesting ports on zoom (10.0.0.2):
>PORT   STATE         SERVICE
>67/udp open|filtered dhcps
>MAC Address: 00:40:36:31:8C:F2 (Tribe Computer Works)
>
>Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.63 seconds
>
>As mentioned, nmap is quite handy and can do a lot more.
>
>-- 
>Hal
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>
>
>On 25 April 2010 16:40, Jos Dassen <jmhdassen at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I have been trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 10.4 LTS with mixed success.
>>
>> The upgrade from 9.10 (amd64) to 10.4 LTS (amd64) went flawless.
>> The upgrade from 8.04 LTS (x86) to 10.4 LTS has problems. The process
>> finishes without errors and the updated system reboots OK. But then it does
>> not accept any input from the keyboard. Mouse works fine and also onboard
>> keyboard works fine.
>>
>> I guess there is something missing in the configuration.
>>
>> Any ideas ???
>>
>> (note: both systems are VMware virtual machines).
>>
>
>10.04 is not release yet. Check for and file a bug if necessary.
>
>
>
>-- 
>Dotan Cohen
>
>http://bido.com
>http://what-is-what.com
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>Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> On 25 April 2010 16:40, Jos Dassen <jmhdassen at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>   
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I have been trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 10.4 LTS with mixed success.
>>>
>>> The upgrade from 9.10 (amd64) to 10.4 LTS (amd64) went flawless.
>>> The upgrade from 8.04 LTS (x86) to 10.4 LTS has problems. The process
>>> finishes without errors and the updated system reboots OK. But then it does
>>> not accept any input from the keyboard. Mouse works fine and also onboard
>>> keyboard works fine.
>>>
>>> I guess there is something missing in the configuration.
>>>
>>> Any ideas ???
>>>
>>> (note: both systems are VMware virtual machines).
>>>
>>>     
>>
>> 10.04 is not release yet. Check for and file a bug if necessary.
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>> Hey Jos,
>
>A couple of things could have caused this. There could possibly be some 
>bugs causing this issue. I am not a developer so I would not know where 
>to look for it. The final and stable release is on Thursday so look 
>forward to that. Also, it might have been a glitchy install even though 
>like you said, "...finishes without errors and the updated system 
>reboots OK,". I had to try 3 times until I got a good non/little glitchy 
>installation of Ubuntu 9.04. And it could possibly be a problem in the 
>configuration, too.
>
>Hope this helps,
>Xenon
>
>
>
>On 26/04/10 00:59, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> On 25 April 2010 16:40, Jos Dassen<jmhdassen at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>>    
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I have been trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 10.4 LTS with mixed success.
>>>
>>> The upgrade from 9.10 (amd64) to 10.4 LTS (amd64) went flawless.
>>> The upgrade from 8.04 LTS (x86) to 10.4 LTS has problems. The process
>>> finishes without errors and the updated system reboots OK. But then it does
>>> not accept any input from the keyboard. Mouse works fine and also onboard
>>> keyboard works fine.
>>>
>>> I guess there is something missing in the configuration.
>>>
>>> Any ideas ???
>>>
>>> (note: both systems are VMware virtual machines).
>>>
>>>      
>> 10.04 is not release yet. Check for and file a bug if necessary.
>>    
>
>There is a very good reason why I asked the man if he read the URL I 
>provided.
>
>There it states:
>
>
>To avoid damaging your system, upgrading should only be done from one 
>release to the next release (e.g. Ubuntu 9.04 to Ubuntu 9.10) or from 
>one LTS release to the next (e.g. Ubuntu 6.06LTS to Ubuntu 8.04LTS). If 
>you wish to 'skip' a version, you can backup your data and do a fresh 
>installation, or progressively upgrade to each successive version. For 
>example, to upgrade from Ubuntu 8.10 to Ubuntu 9.10, first upgrade to 
>9.04, then upgrade 9.04 to 9.10.
>
>He is upgrading from 8.04 LTS to 10.4 LTS. Whether 10.04 is released or 
>not is immaterial, but the situation is covered by what the Ubuntu 
>Upgrade instructions are stating.
>
>BC
>
>
>-- 
>"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."
>                                                                     Galileo Galilei
>
>
>
>
>
>Xenon wrote:
>...
>>> Hey Jos,
>> 
>> A couple of things could have caused this. There could possibly be some 
>> bugs causing this issue. I am not a developer so I would not know where 
>> to look for it. The final and stable release is on Thursday so look 
>> forward to that. Also, it might have been a glitchy install even though 
>> like you said, "...finishes without errors and the updated system 
>> reboots OK,". I had to try 3 times until I got a good non/little glitchy 
>> installation of Ubuntu 9.04. And it could possibly be a problem in the 
>> configuration, too.
>...
>New release notes:
>http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004
>http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004overview
>
>
>
>
>axel wrote:
>> On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 07:04 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
>>   
>>> On 04/23/2010 02:18 AM, axel wrote:
>>>     
>>>> I am running Ubuntu 8,04 on a Dell Inspiron 1501
>>>>
>>>> Intermittently ...When I boot up (or try to), I get two bug messages:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. MP_BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
>>>>
>>>> 2. PCI: BIOS BUG #81 [49435000] found
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes, the booting up process completes anyway; sometimes it
>>>> doesn't. When it doesn't, I get stopped at an initramfs prompt and can't
>>>> get beyond that.
>>>>
>>>> I have updated GRUB ...and this seems to help i.e. the booting up
>>>> process is completed.But the BUG message still appears in the start up
>>>> sequence screens
>>>> With no luck I have tried to find a "download" for a Dell/Linux BIOS ,
>>>> so I can update my BIOS : the problem arises in that the available "BIOS
>>>> downloads" are directed at "Windows Users": I had Windows
>>>> Vista....chucked it out and loaded Ubuntu in its place. So now the
>>>> problem really is that I cant find a "Ubuntu based BIOS UPDATE "
>>>> Can you help
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>>       
>>>          Yes. A BIOS update comes from the mother board maker, not 
>>> Windows or Ubuntu. Try that for a BIOS update. I have never updated a BIOS.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73 Karl
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> 	Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
>>> 	Linux User
>>> 	#450462   http://counter.li.org.
>>>          Key ID = 3951B48D
>>>     
>>
>> Point taken, 
>> Thank you,
>> Axel.
>>   
>>>
>>>     
>Me too,Thanks Karl Anyway I am looking at a booklet "Windows for 
>dummies" and I am one off them, I don't know how this thing got on my 
>desk but there are so many things I don't know.
>I have a gateway computer here with windows and linux, hung with grub 5, 
>because I had lost windows and tried to revive it with a PclinuxOs cd. 
>No luck yet. John
>
>
>
>On 04/25/2010 07:38 AM, Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
>> I doubt that using smtp, however secured, for auto configuration or
>> whatever automatic stuff is a good idea.
>
>You use it to automatically receive email, don't you?  I imagine even 
>the important ones...
>
>I've been a paid software engineer for 20 years, and  people use SMTP 
>for this role all the time.  Talk about a track record--SMTP reliably 
>transports BILLIONS of messages PER DAY.  It has been honed for that 
>purpose for over 20 years.  It's the most vetted software on the planet. 
>  You can even use SMTP instead of HTTP as the transport for servlets, 
>JSP pages and web services.  It's just like HTTP in this role except, 
>you know, it's reliable.
>
>If you've ever used that thingy they call the World Wide Web, you've 
>sometimes clicked in a link and nothing happened, or the page didn't 
>fully load.  Then you either had to click the link again and/or reload 
>the page.  That's because HTTP is unreliable and sometimes the signal 
>doesn't get through.  When was the last time you sent an email that was 
>properly addressed, wasn't detected as spam, and the email system was 
>properly configured, that didn't get through?  In fact, I'm willing to 
>bet you a gazillion dollars that this message will indeed make it to the 
>mailing list, and when the mailing list sends this email out to all of 
>it's subscribers, all of them, including you, will get it.  Assuming 
>their systems are properly configured.
>
>I can't believe Thunderbird's spell checker knows the word "gazillion".
>
>> /me stares at list of various protocols, proprietary and open, used for
>> router/switch/access-point configuration/communication.
>>
>> Hmm, none of them chose to use an existing protocol like smtp with its
>> email parsing overhead.
>
>That argument subverts the point you were just trying to make.  The 
>configuration of the devices you just mentioned is meant to be done 
>MANUALLY--not automatically--, by a human in real time.  So the human 
>takes on the task of verifying the message was sent.  For example, when 
>he sees the "Changes Saved" screen.
>
>Overhead, BTW, had nothing to do with it.  Unless you expect people to 
>be reconfiguring their system millions of times per day.
>
>> Reliability of smtp? I suppose if delays of five days or a day are
>> tolerated or not at all....
>
>You're proving MY point with that one.  That shows that SMTP will not 
>stop until it sends the message, even if it takes 5 days.  HTTP would 
>have long since given up.  In fact, you can configure SMTP to NEVER stop 
>until it gets the job done, or until it dies trying.  Just like Arnold 
>in that movie.
>
>If there are no problems with the connection and SMTP is configured for 
>speed, it will generally take in the order of milliseconds to send a 
>message to its destination.
>
>
>
>Hi, 
>
>Anyone could tell me the best way to extract music CDs with all the
>metadatas. Meaning, the cd would be extracted with all the songs details
>and title. I am redoing my music library and I have to manually tag all
>my songs. I am using Ubuntu 9.10 and I have to tried to extract music
>cds with banshee, Audio CD extractor but to no avail. 
>
>Kind Regards, 
>
>Zongo
>
>
>
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