wireless on 9.04

[Shannon McMackin]

On 09/11/2009 09:18 AM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
> Shannon McMackin wrote:
>> On 09/10/2009 07:32 AM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>> Shannon McMackin wrote:
>>>> On 09/09/2009 03:53 PM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>>> Shannon McMackin wrote:
>>>>>> On 09/09/2009 01:46 PM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>>>>> Shannon McMackin wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 09/09/2009 08:00 AM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 	I and others wrote a bug for 9.04 because we could not get wireless
>>>>>>>>> working after we got a lot of updates. It appears to me now working with
>>>>>>>>> 9.10 alfa 3 that the Key-chain is the thing that causes confusion when
>>>>>>>>> setting up wireless.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 	Here is what happened with 9.10. It came up with no Internet after
>>>>>>>>> installing on the hard drive. Everything else was fine. I right clicked
>>>>>>>>> the two monitor in the upper right edge of the screen, and a panel came
>>>>>>>>> down showing the 3 wireless signals I receive now at home. I selected my
>>>>>>>>> own and a new panel came up asking for my router password. I gave it and
>>>>>>>>> expected the network manager to start getting the Internet but no.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 	Another panel came up asking for me to put in a password for a
>>>>>>>>> key-ring! I put in a simple password, and THEN the Internet started working.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 	After a re-boot again the 9.10 comes up without Internet working. This
>>>>>>>>> time you right click the monitors and the key-chain panel wants you to
>>>>>>>>> give it a password and when you do, it works.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 	Now on 9.04 I went through all this and then tried "wicd" and never
>>>>>>>>> looked back. This replacement for network manager after a reboot has
>>>>>>>>> Internet ready before the rest of the system is started!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 	My question to the group is this: Is anyone using wireless Internet
>>>>>>>>> still using network manager on 9.04? If so are you using the key-ring
>>>>>>>>> password like I did?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Karl
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have never had the problems you describe with key-ring.  Default
>>>>>>>> installs every time.  Since before I can remember and this is maybe back
>>>>>>>> to Edgy, I install and select my wireless AP and enter the information
>>>>>>>> and connect.  Never prompted for a keyring password.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Current NM is awesome for me, switching APs and with some WPAsupplicant
>>>>>>>> patches, it's flawless on my corporate LEAP network.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 	Have you ever used 9.04? Edgy had no problems you see. This problem
>>>>>>> never came up until version 9.04 and your email makes me think you have
>>>>>>> never used 9.04 so you have no background to talk from.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have used every version of Ubuntu since Breezy Badger.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I jumped into Jaunty when it was Alpha 4, Karmic when it was Alpha 2.
>>>>>> Before that i always waited for RC images before jumping in.  I always
>>>>>> do a fresh install so that no flakiness is left behind.  I have /home on
>>>>>> a separate partition, so moving data is easy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> 	OK I jumped into Jaunty at Beta. No problems after switching to the
>>>>> replacement for NM. I did write a bug to Jaunty about the gmail.key and
>>>>> other encombering matter that made NM not work well.
>>>>>
>>>>> 	I was asked last week by Pedro to d/l Karmic alfa 3 and see if it has
>>>>> the same problem as 9.04 has. I did that and Karmic has exactly the same
>>>>> problem!
>>>>>
>>>>> 	Read back a few emails and see how many other people have this problem
>>>>> and what they did to correct for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 	Finally I think your a liar. There is no way you could miss this
>>>>> problem IF your using wireless.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Karl,
>>>>
>>>> Your condescending attitude is usually amusing until you direct it at
>>>> me.  I am no liar and I'm telling you that I've never had the keyring
>>>> problem.  The last time I experienced a keyring request for accessing
>>>> wireless on 1st time setup, I did what was recommended, set my keyring
>>>> password to my login password and I was never prompted again.
>>> 	I guess your FIX works and it goes from version to version as you upgrade.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      This was
>>>> many releases ago.
>>>>
>>>> I've had Intel wireless and Atheros wireless and never ever experienced
>>>> the level of difficulty you seem to have.
>>>>
>>>> You should not be calling people a liar unless you can prove it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> 	I called you a liar because you said first you were NEVER bothered by
>>> the keyring thing. Now you admit you DID have a problem and you applied
>>> a FIX that works.
>>>
>>> 	My position is simple. If Ubuntu wants to get more people interested in
>>> using the system, they should not have to learn somehow a FIX so they
>>> can get wireless Internet working.
>>>
>>> karl
>>>
>>>
>> If you read what I wrote, I said I never had a problem with it.  When it
>> asked me for a password, I gave it my user account password and never
>> saw it again.  Therefore I'm not a liar.
>>
>>
>
> 	Please tell us which versions you did this with.
>
>
>
When I did do a fresh install of Ubuntu and was prompted for a keyring 
password upon connecting to wireless was at least 2 years ago or more. 
If I had to make a guess, it was gutsy gibbon or feisty fawn.

2 weeks ago, I did a fresh install of Karmic Alpha4 and was not prompted 
for a keyring password upon wireless connection.  I was not prompted 
when I did a fresh install of jaunty, intrepid, hardy or gutsy.