wireless on 9.04

[Karl F. Larsen]

Shannon McMackin wrote:
> On 09/11/2009 09:18 AM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>> Shannon McMackin wrote:
>>> On 09/10/2009 07:32 AM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>> Shannon McMackin wrote:
>>>>> On 09/09/2009 03:53 PM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>>>> Shannon McMackin wrote:
>>>>>>> On 09/09/2009 01:46 PM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>>>>>> Shannon McMackin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 09/09/2009 08:00 AM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 	I and others wrote a bug for 9.04 because we could not get wireless
>>>>>>>>>> working after we got a lot of updates. It appears to me now working with
>>>>>>>>>> 9.10 alfa 3 that the Key-chain is the thing that causes confusion when
>>>>>>>>>> setting up wireless.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 	Here is what happened with 9.10. It came up with no Internet after
>>>>>>>>>> installing on the hard drive. Everything else was fine. I right clicked
>>>>>>>>>> the two monitor in the upper right edge of the screen, and a panel came
>>>>>>>>>> down showing the 3 wireless signals I receive now at home. I selected my
>>>>>>>>>> own and a new panel came up asking for my router password. I gave it and
>>>>>>>>>> expected the network manager to start getting the Internet but no.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 	Another panel came up asking for me to put in a password for a
>>>>>>>>>> key-ring! I put in a simple password, and THEN the Internet started working.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 	After a re-boot again the 9.10 comes up without Internet working. This
>>>>>>>>>> time you right click the monitors and the key-chain panel wants you to
>>>>>>>>>> give it a password and when you do, it works.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 	Now on 9.04 I went through all this and then tried "wicd" and never
>>>>>>>>>> looked back. This replacement for network manager after a reboot has
>>>>>>>>>> Internet ready before the rest of the system is started!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 	My question to the group is this: Is anyone using wireless Internet
>>>>>>>>>> still using network manager on 9.04? If so are you using the key-ring
>>>>>>>>>> password like I did?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Karl
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have never had the problems you describe with key-ring.  Default
>>>>>>>>> installs every time.  Since before I can remember and this is maybe back
>>>>>>>>> to Edgy, I install and select my wireless AP and enter the information
>>>>>>>>> and connect.  Never prompted for a keyring password.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Current NM is awesome for me, switching APs and with some WPAsupplicant
>>>>>>>>> patches, it's flawless on my corporate LEAP network.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 	Have you ever used 9.04? Edgy had no problems you see. This problem
>>>>>>>> never came up until version 9.04 and your email makes me think you have
>>>>>>>> never used 9.04 so you have no background to talk from.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have used every version of Ubuntu since Breezy Badger.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I jumped into Jaunty when it was Alpha 4, Karmic when it was Alpha 2.
>>>>>>> Before that i always waited for RC images before jumping in.  I always
>>>>>>> do a fresh install so that no flakiness is left behind.  I have /home on
>>>>>>> a separate partition, so moving data is easy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	OK I jumped into Jaunty at Beta. No problems after switching to the
>>>>>> replacement for NM. I did write a bug to Jaunty about the gmail.key and
>>>>>> other encombering matter that made NM not work well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	I was asked last week by Pedro to d/l Karmic alfa 3 and see if it has
>>>>>> the same problem as 9.04 has. I did that and Karmic has exactly the same
>>>>>> problem!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	Read back a few emails and see how many other people have this problem
>>>>>> and what they did to correct for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	Finally I think your a liar. There is no way you could miss this
>>>>>> problem IF your using wireless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Karl,
>>>>>
>>>>> Your condescending attitude is usually amusing until you direct it at
>>>>> me.  I am no liar and I'm telling you that I've never had the keyring
>>>>> problem.  The last time I experienced a keyring request for accessing
>>>>> wireless on 1st time setup, I did what was recommended, set my keyring
>>>>> password to my login password and I was never prompted again.
>>>> 	I guess your FIX works and it goes from version to version as you upgrade.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      This was
>>>>> many releases ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had Intel wireless and Atheros wireless and never ever experienced
>>>>> the level of difficulty you seem to have.
>>>>>
>>>>> You should not be calling people a liar unless you can prove it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> 	I called you a liar because you said first you were NEVER bothered by
>>>> the keyring thing. Now you admit you DID have a problem and you applied
>>>> a FIX that works.
>>>>
>>>> 	My position is simple. If Ubuntu wants to get more people interested in
>>>> using the system, they should not have to learn somehow a FIX so they
>>>> can get wireless Internet working.
>>>>
>>>> karl
>>>>
>>>>
>>> If you read what I wrote, I said I never had a problem with it.  When it
>>> asked me for a password, I gave it my user account password and never
>>> saw it again.  Therefore I'm not a liar.
>>>
>>>
>> 	Please tell us which versions you did this with.
>>
>>
>>
> When I did do a fresh install of Ubuntu and was prompted for a keyring 
> password upon connecting to wireless was at least 2 years ago or more. 
> If I had to make a guess, it was gutsy gibbon or feisty fawn.
> 
> 2 weeks ago, I did a fresh install of Karmic Alpha4 and was not prompted 
> for a keyring password upon wireless connection.  I was not prompted 
> when I did a fresh install of jaunty, intrepid, hardy or gutsy.
> 
> 

	I am sorry. What you say is contrary to what I KNOW is fact. First you 
can not have this problem with intrepid, hardy or gutsy since they have 
no keyring software.

	I find the keyring problem in jaunty, as many others have also, and in 
Karmic Alfa3 seen just by me so far.

	So what you say tells me you know far less about this problem than I 
do. From now on I will just no longer discuss this with you.



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