wireless on 9.04

[Shannon McMackin]

On 09/10/2009 07:32 AM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
> Shannon McMackin wrote:
>> On 09/09/2009 03:53 PM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>> Shannon McMackin wrote:
>>>> On 09/09/2009 01:46 PM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>>> Shannon McMackin wrote:
>>>>>> On 09/09/2009 08:00 AM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>>>>> 	I and others wrote a bug for 9.04 because we could not get wireless
>>>>>>> working after we got a lot of updates. It appears to me now working with
>>>>>>> 9.10 alfa 3 that the Key-chain is the thing that causes confusion when
>>>>>>> setting up wireless.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 	Here is what happened with 9.10. It came up with no Internet after
>>>>>>> installing on the hard drive. Everything else was fine. I right clicked
>>>>>>> the two monitor in the upper right edge of the screen, and a panel came
>>>>>>> down showing the 3 wireless signals I receive now at home. I selected my
>>>>>>> own and a new panel came up asking for my router password. I gave it and
>>>>>>> expected the network manager to start getting the Internet but no.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 	Another panel came up asking for me to put in a password for a
>>>>>>> key-ring! I put in a simple password, and THEN the Internet started working.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 	After a re-boot again the 9.10 comes up without Internet working. This
>>>>>>> time you right click the monitors and the key-chain panel wants you to
>>>>>>> give it a password and when you do, it works.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 	Now on 9.04 I went through all this and then tried "wicd" and never
>>>>>>> looked back. This replacement for network manager after a reboot has
>>>>>>> Internet ready before the rest of the system is started!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 	My question to the group is this: Is anyone using wireless Internet
>>>>>>> still using network manager on 9.04? If so are you using the key-ring
>>>>>>> password like I did?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Karl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have never had the problems you describe with key-ring.  Default
>>>>>> installs every time.  Since before I can remember and this is maybe back
>>>>>> to Edgy, I install and select my wireless AP and enter the information
>>>>>> and connect.  Never prompted for a keyring password.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Current NM is awesome for me, switching APs and with some WPAsupplicant
>>>>>> patches, it's flawless on my corporate LEAP network.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> 	Have you ever used 9.04? Edgy had no problems you see. This problem
>>>>> never came up until version 9.04 and your email makes me think you have
>>>>> never used 9.04 so you have no background to talk from.
>>>>>
>>>> I have used every version of Ubuntu since Breezy Badger.
>>>>
>>>> I jumped into Jaunty when it was Alpha 4, Karmic when it was Alpha 2.
>>>> Before that i always waited for RC images before jumping in.  I always
>>>> do a fresh install so that no flakiness is left behind.  I have /home on
>>>> a separate partition, so moving data is easy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> 	OK I jumped into Jaunty at Beta. No problems after switching to the
>>> replacement for NM. I did write a bug to Jaunty about the gmail.key and
>>> other encombering matter that made NM not work well.
>>>
>>> 	I was asked last week by Pedro to d/l Karmic alfa 3 and see if it has
>>> the same problem as 9.04 has. I did that and Karmic has exactly the same
>>> problem!
>>>
>>> 	Read back a few emails and see how many other people have this problem
>>> and what they did to correct for it.
>>>
>>> 	Finally I think your a liar. There is no way you could miss this
>>> problem IF your using wireless.
>>>
>>>
>> Karl,
>>
>> Your condescending attitude is usually amusing until you direct it at
>> me.  I am no liar and I'm telling you that I've never had the keyring
>> problem.  The last time I experienced a keyring request for accessing
>> wireless on 1st time setup, I did what was recommended, set my keyring
>> password to my login password and I was never prompted again.
>
> 	I guess your FIX works and it goes from version to version as you upgrade.
>
>
>
>
>     This was
>> many releases ago.
>>
>> I've had Intel wireless and Atheros wireless and never ever experienced
>> the level of difficulty you seem to have.
>>
>> You should not be calling people a liar unless you can prove it.
>>
>>
>
> 	I called you a liar because you said first you were NEVER bothered by
> the keyring thing. Now you admit you DID have a problem and you applied
> a FIX that works.
>
> 	My position is simple. If Ubuntu wants to get more people interested in
> using the system, they should not have to learn somehow a FIX so they
> can get wireless Internet working.
>
> karl
>
>
If you read what I wrote, I said I never had a problem with it.  When it 
asked me for a password, I gave it my user account password and never 
saw it again.  Therefore I'm not a liar.