wireless on 9.04

Karl F. Larsen klarsen1 at gmail.com
Thu Sep 10 12:32:55 BST 2009


Shannon McMackin wrote:
> On 09/09/2009 03:53 PM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>> Shannon McMackin wrote:
>>> On 09/09/2009 01:46 PM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>> Shannon McMackin wrote:
>>>>> On 09/09/2009 08:00 AM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>>>> 	I and others wrote a bug for 9.04 because we could not get wireless
>>>>>> working after we got a lot of updates. It appears to me now working with
>>>>>> 9.10 alfa 3 that the Key-chain is the thing that causes confusion when
>>>>>> setting up wireless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	Here is what happened with 9.10. It came up with no Internet after
>>>>>> installing on the hard drive. Everything else was fine. I right clicked
>>>>>> the two monitor in the upper right edge of the screen, and a panel came
>>>>>> down showing the 3 wireless signals I receive now at home. I selected my
>>>>>> own and a new panel came up asking for my router password. I gave it and
>>>>>> expected the network manager to start getting the Internet but no.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	Another panel came up asking for me to put in a password for a
>>>>>> key-ring! I put in a simple password, and THEN the Internet started working.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	After a re-boot again the 9.10 comes up without Internet working. This
>>>>>> time you right click the monitors and the key-chain panel wants you to
>>>>>> give it a password and when you do, it works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	Now on 9.04 I went through all this and then tried "wicd" and never
>>>>>> looked back. This replacement for network manager after a reboot has
>>>>>> Internet ready before the rest of the system is started!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	My question to the group is this: Is anyone using wireless Internet
>>>>>> still using network manager on 9.04? If so are you using the key-ring
>>>>>> password like I did?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Karl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I have never had the problems you describe with key-ring.  Default
>>>>> installs every time.  Since before I can remember and this is maybe back
>>>>> to Edgy, I install and select my wireless AP and enter the information
>>>>> and connect.  Never prompted for a keyring password.
>>>>>
>>>>> Current NM is awesome for me, switching APs and with some WPAsupplicant
>>>>> patches, it's flawless on my corporate LEAP network.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> 	Have you ever used 9.04? Edgy had no problems you see. This problem
>>>> never came up until version 9.04 and your email makes me think you have
>>>> never used 9.04 so you have no background to talk from.
>>>>
>>> I have used every version of Ubuntu since Breezy Badger.
>>>
>>> I jumped into Jaunty when it was Alpha 4, Karmic when it was Alpha 2.
>>> Before that i always waited for RC images before jumping in.  I always
>>> do a fresh install so that no flakiness is left behind.  I have /home on
>>> a separate partition, so moving data is easy.
>>>
>>>
>> 	OK I jumped into Jaunty at Beta. No problems after switching to the
>> replacement for NM. I did write a bug to Jaunty about the gmail.key and
>> other encombering matter that made NM not work well.
>>
>> 	I was asked last week by Pedro to d/l Karmic alfa 3 and see if it has
>> the same problem as 9.04 has. I did that and Karmic has exactly the same
>> problem!
>>
>> 	Read back a few emails and see how many other people have this problem
>> and what they did to correct for it.
>>
>> 	Finally I think your a liar. There is no way you could miss this
>> problem IF your using wireless.
>>
>>
> Karl,
> 
> Your condescending attitude is usually amusing until you direct it at 
> me.  I am no liar and I'm telling you that I've never had the keyring 
> problem.  The last time I experienced a keyring request for accessing 
> wireless on 1st time setup, I did what was recommended, set my keyring 
> password to my login password and I was never prompted again.

	I guess your FIX works and it goes from version to version as you upgrade.




   This was
> many releases ago.
> 
> I've had Intel wireless and Atheros wireless and never ever experienced 
> the level of difficulty you seem to have.
> 
> You should not be calling people a liar unless you can prove it.
> 
> 

	I called you a liar because you said first you were NEVER bothered by 
the keyring thing. Now you admit you DID have a problem and you applied 
a FIX that works.

	My position is simple. If Ubuntu wants to get more people interested in 
using the system, they should not have to learn somehow a FIX so they 
can get wireless Internet working.

karl


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