Wcid Program problems

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what rubbish, when it handles PPP and VPN's (and properly, which means 
unlike NM) then, and only then, will it leave NM in its wake.

Now this might be fine for those os us who know how to write scripts, but 
its not good enough for newbies and employees who just want to click on
it to work. NM PPP has *never* worked on my laptop, good old 
pppd/chatscripts manually written work first time every time.


On Tue, 26 May 2009, Karl F. Larsen wrote:

> Shannon McMackin wrote:
>> On 05/26/2009 02:32 PM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>
>>> Robert Holtzman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 26 May 2009, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Robert Holtzman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 25 May 2009, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert Holtzman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 25 May 2009, Karl Larsen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     I have been looking at the Sourceforge web page for Wcid and it is
>>>>>>>>> all showing signs of not enough help for the technical writing and no
>>>>>>>>> plain blog on how to install and use Wcid software. Go to
>>>>>>>>> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ and you will see what is happening.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     If you have experiance with a wiki they need help setting that up.
>>>>>>>>> Also the list software is not working. I tried to join and nothing
>>>>>>>>> happened. I am not expert in either area :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Karl,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Go back to the sourceforge link you cited and *read* the whole page
>>>>>>>> instead of skimming it. You will find a link to complete instructions on
>>>>>>>> downloading and installing the program. Also a link to the wicd forum. I
>>>>>>>> had no trouble registering. The key is that you have to read.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     I have switched to ALL besides the home page and see NOTHING about
>>>>>>> starting wcid once it is installed. Nothing about the tiny triangle you
>>>>>>> MUST click to add a WiFi password. This is all NOT THERE, PERIOD!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> NOT THERE, PERIOD, huh? How about this from the sourceforge page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>                    ............snip...........
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>     This does not cover USING wcid on a Ubuntu computer with WiFi except
>>>>> for Jaunty, and even there it doesn't talk to clicking the tiny triangle
>>>>> so you can enter your password. This IS critical :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Of course it is. It's also so trivial that no forum, wiki, HOWTO or man
>>>> page that I could find feels it necessary to mention it. After going
>>>> *way* back in the Ubuntu and Debian archives I failed to find anyone who
>>>> had trouble figuring this out. No one required spoon feeding to that
>>>> extent (disclaimer: due to the late hour and fatigue I may have missed
>>>> some, but if so they were damned few).
>>>>
>>>> Tell me, boychick, why only you?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>      Well my mother, not like yours knew nothing about this problem so
>>> she never told me be sure to leave the panel un-closed while you d/l the
>>> key. That is why the part of the Ubuntu instructions covering this part
>>> are done in dark letters. So guys like you can, if only you knew how to
>>> read, learn something.
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> The point here is that Robert's telling you it was so trivial that he
>> didn't have to read about it.  He wasn't talking about the synaptic or
>> software sources, he was referring to your insistence that the triangle
>> widget in WICD should be documented.
>>
>> BTW, I tried WICD once and never needed any documentation to get it
>> running.  It didn't suit my needs, so I reverted back to NM and never
>> had issues with the keyring or any other portion of the application.
>>
>> Because it isn't obvious to you doesn't mean it's junk, broken or buggy
>> to anyone else.
>>
>>
>>
>    I say if you tried Wcid and didn't like it, it must have been an
> early model. The current model is so good it puts Network-Manager to
> shame :-)
>
> Karl
>
>
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