'Tone of the list' discussion

[Oliver Grawert]

hi,
Am Donnerstag, den 14.05.2009, 09:30 +0000 schrieb marc:
> I don't believe that anything has been proven. I think this list behaves 
> like many others I've observed and participated in over the years.
right, and thats very sad, it used to behave a lot better than other
lists i have ever been subscribed to. it got worse since 2006/07 with a
tendency downwards and if you search for buzzwords like "asshole" or
"idiot" in the archives between 2004 and today you will see what i mean
and when such terms showed up first and how frequently they are used
today.

>  Where 
> there is a common purpose, then things tend to be calm, when there are 
> divergent options then personalities express themselves; sometimes wods 
> are spoken.
there is no reason to forbid heated discussion (as long as participants
stay respectful towards each other) censorship is not the target
here ...

> 
> No amount of moderation - other than full, which would kill the list 
> completely - will stop that, and I believe that it's naive to believe 
> otherwise. I mean head-shakingly, goggle-eyed, staring at the floor 
> naive. But I understand politics too.
again (as i posted various times now in other threads) this is not about
moderation but about a team of people that have resources to put time
into taking responsibility for the list. it is not about a list police
but it is about having a group of people that can take last resort
actions if something goes over the edge.

ciao
	oli
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