Ubuntu 8.10 applets not saving properties - sounds + NetManager

Derek Broughton derek at pointerstop.ca
Mon Mar 30 12:26:20 UTC 2009

Mihai Tanasescu wrote:

> @Thorny:
> My home setup includes a static IP from the provider but I also have a
> wifi usb stick in my home PC.
> What good would in this case be to only be able to do roaming with the
> Network Manager. (when it has in it an option to add a static ip instead
> of DHCP for a network card..and I have 2 onboard).

Ubuntu quite correctly makes the assumption that software that supports 95%
of network use cases is probably better to distribute than more complicated
software that would still fail in 1% of cases.  Of course, that doesn't
alter the fact that there _are_ still bugs in NetworkManager that should
have been stomped years ago.

I still don't understand how you have a problem.  If your home setup has a
static IP _and_ you're using Wifi at home, your computer should be using a
dynamic IP from your router NOT the static IP.  Your router should have
that static IP, and if your own computer uses it as well you're - at the
very least - asking for big problems.  Put it this way, if your ISP has
given you the address, and you plug your computer into a box on the
wall , you use  Now, you plug your router into that box.  The
router _must_ be set to  Whether your computer plugs into the
router, another slot in the wall-box, or accesses the router via wireless
it MUST NOT use the same IP as the router.  You'll be sending bits directly
into a black hole.

> I was able to make a workaround against this bug (I found it reported
> already) by doing ifconfig / route add default gw in a script and/or
> killing NetManager, but it's not the civilized way to go.

In 95% of cases, if you need to "workaround" a bug, you have to consider
whether there's really a bug or whether you're doing things the wrong way.

> Now what's left is the sound problem.

Please ask in a separate thread.  It's hard enough to keep threads on topic
without trying to handle two completely different problems at once. 

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