Python error interpretation

Ray Parrish crp at
Sun Mar 15 14:32:09 UTC 2009

Hal Burgiss wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:27:06PM -0700, Ray Parrish wrote:
>> I do not understand this fascination with attempting to install things 
>> from the command line, when there is the excellent Synaptic Package 
>> Manager available right there on your menu, which can easily circumvent 
>> the problems you're currently having with your python installation.
> [...]
> Well, I am not where the server is, so command line is *much* easier
> and faster than running X remote across the internet (which I have
> done in a previous incarnation). The system is in a datacenter, with
> no monitor, mouse or keyboard attached. 
> Secondly, any GUI adds a layer of complexity wrapping the basic
> functionality of the underlying system components, which sometimes
> introduce the potential for bugs or unwanted "features". 
> I've run all this through 'strace' to see if I can see just where
> things are breaking, but no joy there either, which is the kind of
> thing that can be done command line and not GUI. Not that it helped me
> this time.
> If it were a local system, I'd be happy to try anything at this point
> though. Any port in a storm. The error messages certainly aren't
> helping me at all. Thanks.
Ahhh! That clears up the reasons for that then. I can sometimes have a 
slightly restricted view point, being here at home all the time, and did 
not consider the possibility of remote administration being a factor.

I am actually getting to where I like the power available to me at the 
command line for certain things. The biggest problem I've had with it so 
far is the seemingly inconsistent application of syntax rules as applied 
to different commands. This has my nose constantly buried in the man, 
and info pages, when I'm trying to do anything with the command line.

It is worth learning however, as the search interface as built into 
Nautilus is painfully slow, whereas the use of ls, find, and grep can 
really speed things up, if I could just remember the details of how each 
one works when I want to use them. DOS batch language commands were no 
where nearly as power full, but they did apply very consistent syntax 
rules, which made it easier to remember how to use them.

Later, Ray Parrish

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